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hoovesupsideyourhead 03-06-2008 11:16 AM

Shamdinan back to O'neill
 
think penna was dismissed or ok with it.. the horse is "just ok dog"..ala randy jackson..

blackthroatedwind 03-06-2008 11:20 AM

Is this horse related to Shamdinan?

Scav 03-06-2008 11:22 AM

O'Neil had the horse first (won the Secretariat with him)

Kasept 03-06-2008 11:25 AM

It was a surprise to Angel Penna that he was left with him originally... He hadn't expected to keep him long term, though at this point I expect he's disappointed to lose him. Got to see Shamdinan at Palm Meadows recently, and he's a really nice horse...

freddymo 03-06-2008 11:26 AM

The horse has BC winner written all over him. Mr Wolfson could have seen to that with a little seasoning.

the_fat_man 03-06-2008 12:11 PM

He's a REAL MONSTER (when he gets a perfect setup).

SniperSB23 03-06-2008 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
O'Neil had the horse first (won the Secretariat with him)

Didn't he never see the horse until the day of the race?

freddymo 03-06-2008 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Come on Freddy, the BC? That's almost as bad as DrugS ridiculous thoughts about Spring House.

Nothing nuts about Wolfson moving up reasonable turf talent... Agreed its a stretch but think about the last two that he has gotten to jump thru hoops

freddymo 03-06-2008 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Wolfson is a very good trainer. It's not easy to move up off of Mott, but he does. But I guess I don't see the talent in this one that others do.

If we saw the talent in MApproval we would have claimed him

freddymo 03-06-2008 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I'm missing your point Freddy.

Who the F thought MAppoval was a scary talent that would go on to win a BC race when he was available for a tag?

freddymo 03-06-2008 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I guess no one, but it's not like Wolfson is never wrong. I also don't know if I'd describe MA as having scary talent either, but whatever. Just so I know, is your point they should have given the horse to Wolfson?

I would give have if he was mine...

the_fat_man 03-06-2008 01:43 PM

All I know is this horse tried to run with Thorn Song and Einstein EARLY and GOT BURIED. He was FLAT OUT EMBARRASSED!!!

The time before, NoBiz and the rest ate his lunch. Why are we here going on about him? Don't we have races going on or MORE INTERESTING/BETTER horses to devote space to?

What's the fixation on this and other boards with bad (or MEDIOCRE) horses. Horse groupieISM ---a growing phenomenon.

hockey2315 03-06-2008 02:28 PM

Don't have his PPs close by but I think Shamdinan is a soft turf specialist (BC and Secretariat were both on softer ground). . .

brianwspencer 03-06-2008 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315
Don't have his PPs close by but I think Shamdinan is a soft turf specialist (BC and Secretariat were both on softer ground). . .

Didn't he bomb on his last over soft going before coming to the States?

Maybe I'm thinking of another horse, but I thought it was him, and I remember being confused before the BC about whether he liked it or not after winning the Secretariat.


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