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declansharbor 02-29-2008 04:39 PM

Eagles sign Asante Samuels
 
Thoughts?? Opinions??

I think it only makes sense if they are going to ship out Lito or Shelden Brown will make a transition to nickel back or even safety. And without a fastball type pass rush, cornerbacks don't mean $hit. See the Giants last year. The front 4 offset a very, very mediocre defensive backfield. The front 4 made those guys look like pro bowlers some games.

With one more pass rusher, and a true number 1 playmaker/reciever, the Eagles will be in the running for the NFC again.

Discuss. Serve my homerish a$$ a plate of reality please!

SniperSB23 02-29-2008 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor
Thoughts?? Opinions??

I think it only makes sense if they are going to ship out Lito or Shelden Brown will make a transition to nickel back or even safety. And without a fastball type pass rush, cornerbacks don't mean $hit. See the Giants last year. The front 4 offset a very, very mediocre defensive backfield. The front 4 made those guys look like pro bowlers some games.

With one more pass rusher, and a true number 1 playmaker/reciever, the Eagles will be in the running for the NFC again.

Discuss. Serve my homerish a$$ a plate of reality please!

I don't agree with that. Corners are more important for a team without a pass rush. A pass rush can mask bad corners but lack of a pass rush doesn't make corners less valuable, it makes them more valuable.

MaTH716 02-29-2008 06:01 PM

The talk on the radio in NY was, that they would sign Samuel and then try to trade Sheppard to the Cardinals for Larry Fitzgerald.

Corners are very important, even with teams with good pass rushes. The Giants have an excellent pass rush, but there were games that they didn't even sniff the QB (including the playoff game against the Pack). There secondary really stepped it up big time in the playoffs. They shut down big recievers. Corey Webster was on the way out of town and managed to turn it around completely. Aaron Ross started off a bit slow, but he just got better and better as the season went on and he was playing hurt in the playoffs. Even Sam Madison who I thought sucked, played well (with exception of that stupid personal foul he took in the SB). Playing in argueably the best division (I am also a little biased being a Giants fan-but 3 of the 4 teams did make the playoffs) in the leauge that includes 2 teams with many offensive theats (Owens, Buress, Crayton etc...) If you are an Eagle fan you should be happy about getting a premiere player that is going to help you on defense and if they could somehow parlay that in to getting Fitzgerald it is a homerun. But he better work on his tackling because he is going to have to face Jacobs, Barber/Mcfadden (if they get him) and Portis each twice a season.

Cannon Shell 02-29-2008 07:14 PM

Corners are very important when playing Madden...

ddthetide 02-29-2008 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
But he better work on his tackling because he is going to have to face Jacobs, Barber/Mcfadden (if they get him) and Portis each twice a season.

Barber would be VERY Nice in black & gold.:)

3kings 02-29-2008 08:59 PM

Not a very physical CB(especially against the run) which will hurt in that division. On the bright side, he has better hands than any of the Philly wide receivers.

MaTH716 02-29-2008 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Can someone explain to me what the Jets are doing? Kris Jenkins? And they trade Vilma for a 4th round pick? I was all for trading Vilma, but I have to imagine there was a better deal somewhere.

Makes perfect sense. They are the JETS. Trade all you picks so you don't embarass yourself at the draft again!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=rZxNeFLuY98

Cannon Shell 02-29-2008 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Can someone explain to me what the Jets are doing? Kris Jenkins? And they trade Vilma for a 4th round pick? I was all for trading Vilma, but I have to imagine there was a better deal somewhere.

You dont think the 130th best player in the draft is a good deal?

Cannon Shell 02-29-2008 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 3kings
Not a very physical CB(especially against the run) which will hurt in that division. On the bright side, he has better hands than any of the Philly wide receivers.

If his hands were really good he would have got a ring after the season.

3kings 03-01-2008 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
If his hands were really good he would have got a ring after the season.

I didn't say really good, I just said better than the Eagle recievers.

Cannon Shell 03-01-2008 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 3kings
I didn't say really good, I just said better than the Eagle recievers.

Kickin N screamin has better hands than Eagle receivers...

Cannon Shell 03-01-2008 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Thanks for that trip down memory lane. I was at the draft the year they took D'Brickashaw Ferguson, it was pretty funny. I'm thinking about wearing a paper mask over my face at games this year.

With your Ken O'Brien jersey?

MaTH716 03-01-2008 08:32 AM

I used to call them the Red Sox of the NFL, but I had to give that name up a couple of years ago. But I still think that Joe Namath sold his soul to the devil for them to beat the Colts in the Super Bowl.


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