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Kasept 02-29-2008 11:14 AM

MEC '07 losses total $113,000,000
 
http://www.drf.com/news/article/92634.html

DRF's Matt Hegarty lays out Magna's financials announced this a.m.

'Cannot continue without turnaround' according to MEC auditor... Lost $43MM in 4th quarter alone.

Coach Pants 02-29-2008 11:30 AM

That's pocket change sprinkled with a little lint for Frank.

Thoroughbred Fan 02-29-2008 11:38 AM

Agreed. Frank is a multi-billionaire. At 5% intrest his money makes that much money. He needs to get his head out of his ass and stop dreaming up fake slot machines for non-horseplayers. He gets what he deserves. Bad management, bad ideas, and lack of understanding about the industry andn his "real" customers = losing money.

blackthroatedwind 02-29-2008 11:50 AM

Whatever anyone may think of Stronach, this is very troubling news for the entire Thoroughbred industry, and could have serious repercussions in the future.

Holland Hacker 02-29-2008 12:11 PM

The REALLY scary part is that MEC believes that Gulfstream is having trouble (declining attendance, handle, etc) because people have to walk too far from the parking lots due to constructions. What about being a track that is no longer conducive to getting a horse to the Kentucky Derby via a "traditional" stretch out in distances of races (1 mile - 1 1/16 miles, 1 1/8 miles). Not to mention a lame condition book being written due to the lack of funds to support a good purse structure.

Does anyone at MEC know what it takes to run a race track, or has Mr. Stronach "excused" nearly all of the capable individuals because their opinions differed from his.

OK I'll step down from the soap box now.

asudevil 02-29-2008 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Whatever anyone may think of Stronach, this is very troubling news for the entire Thoroughbred industry, and could have serious repercussions in the future.

Absolutely! How enticing is a potential transaction after reading those numbers?? The salvation may be that it becomes a real estate play....But then the acquirer may not give a sh%t about the actual business...They may just be looking for a short term "flip." Very scary.....

hoovesupsideyourhead 02-29-2008 01:15 PM

well losing a few days at sa didnt help..but maybee an increase in purses would help at gs..go out with a bang.. the energy drink was a bust..he needs to get somebody with a brain..to fire him..

SniperSB23 02-29-2008 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
well losing a few days at sa didnt help..but maybee an increase in purses would help at gs..go out with a bang.. the energy drink was a bust..he needs to get somebody with a brain..to fire him..

Don't let Phil hear you say that. He's probably still working off the caffeine high from Donn weekend.

SentToStud 02-29-2008 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Holland Hacker
The REALLY scary part is that MEC believes that Gulfstream is having trouble (declining attendance, handle, etc) because people have to walk too far from the parking lots due to constructions. What about being a track that is no longer conducive to getting a horse to the Kentucky Derby via a "traditional" stretch out in distances of races (1 mile - 1 1/16 miles, 1 1/8 miles). Not to mention a lame condition book being written due to the lack of funds to support a good purse structure.

Does anyone at MEC know what it takes to run a race track, or has Mr. Stronach "excused" nearly all of the capable individuals because their opinions differed from his.

OK I'll step down from the soap box now.

I don't buy the part about Stronach ruining things by building a 9F track. What's gone now? A few n1 and n2x Allowances and one Graded race at 8.5F? I'd much rather see racing on a 1 1/8 track any day over a 1 mile track. And there is realy no comparing grass racing over a 1 mile track vs a 7/8.

It's also not as if GP is now irrelevant as far as prepping goes. Barbaro did ok prepping there. And last year, Street Sense didn't run at 3 until mid-March so the FL Derby was certainly not going to be on his schedule.

Also, it will be interesting to see how GPs 3 yo race in April draws.

As far as the construction, it is unbelieveably ridiculous. If you park on the west side of the track, you can either walk 1/3 mile or take a shuttle which is pretty nuts on days when there are 2,000 people there.

And you can't deny $113,000,000 isn't a lot of money. That buys a lot of strudel or cheescake.

hoovesupsideyourhead 02-29-2008 01:37 PM

live from the m.e.c boardroom
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dbhNzOIfqU

not sure who is frank

AeWingnut 02-29-2008 03:28 PM

I think they have lost over $300 million in the last 3 years.

Cannon Shell 02-29-2008 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Whatever anyone may think of Stronach, this is very troubling news for the entire Thoroughbred industry, and could have serious repercussions in the future.

I have always maintained that when Frankie boy passes the Board will move quickly to liquidate all the assets of ME and dissolve the company. Maybe it will get tied up for a few years but I dont have much faith that his tracks will survive as racetracks.

hoovesupsideyourhead 02-29-2008 07:32 PM

get rid of woodbine for starters

Cannon Shell 02-29-2008 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
get rid of woodbine for starters

He doesnt own Woodbine. It makes money...

Scav 02-29-2008 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I have always maintained that when Frankie boy passes the Board will move quickly to liquidate all the assets of ME and dissolve the company. Maybe it will get tied up for a few years but I dont have much faith that his tracks will survive as racetracks.

You would have to think that his son is involved in owning this tracks in the future, no?

I don't know if he is the kid from Caddyshack or the next Einstein but he seems to have the same passion as Frank

hoovesupsideyourhead 02-29-2008 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
He doesnt own Woodbine. It makes money...

golden gate..

Cannon Shell 02-29-2008 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
You would have to think that his son is involved in owning this tracks in the future, no?

I don't know if he is the kid from Caddyshack or the next Einstein but he seems to have the same passion as Frank

His kid is a charter member of the lucky sperm club. The kid from Caddyshack is insulted by the inference and Einstein the horse would have a better shot of warding off the board members.

blackthroatedwind 02-29-2008 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
He doesnt own Woodbine. It makes money...

Woodbine is also a great place. Best buffet at a racetrack in North America.

pgardn 02-29-2008 08:09 PM

This industry is like the airline industry.
Only its fractured into all these pieces
seemingly trying destroy each other,
not that many people want to fly,
and federal government is giving little support.

So I guess its much tougher to run a track
than an airline.

I really thought the sport might thrive when the
internet crept in a while back. But for many
complex reasons it
seems that this has not worked out.

Tough business.
Too much cooperation among
competitors required I guess.


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