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Kasept 02-21-2008 04:30 AM

CHRB SYNTH SEMINAR: Baff, Shirreffs rip surface
 
Wednesday's California confab on the synthetic surfaces...

SANTA ANITA TO REPLACE SURFACE AFTER MEET
By Tracy Ganz, Blood-Horse

Experts from all avenues of the racing industry presented statistics and opinions on synthetic surfaces before a standing-room-only crowd during a six-hour special meeting called by the California Horse Racing Board (CHRB) Feb. 20. While some horsemen, including trainers Bob Baffert and John Shirreffs, spoke out against the surfaces, the majority of speakers supported the switch away from dirt.

Santa Anita’s recent difficulties with its Cushion Track surface have focused attention on the CHRB mandate for major California tracks to install synthetic surface by 2008. During the panel of racetrack operators, Santa Anita president Ron Charles said that following completion of the current meeting, the track will replace its surface, though the choice of which synthetic surface has not been made.

“No one is aware more than I am that we will have the Breeders’ Cup here two years in a row,” said Charles. “We have got to get it right. This surface that’s out there right now will only last us through the end of this meet.”

COMPLETE:
http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=43736

Danzig 02-21-2008 07:07 AM

so, the pro ride binder was just a temporary fix....wonder where they go from here? seems to me pro ride would be the favorite to do the new track after the meet ends.

The Bid 02-21-2008 08:10 AM

How about they go back to dirt instead of looking even dumber than they have already

estreetposse 02-21-2008 08:21 AM

How much $$$ will it cost the tracks to re-apply materials every 7 months?

The Bid 02-21-2008 08:36 AM

All weather
Low maintenace
Cost effective
Fair
Less injuries

Which of those have the Californa synthetics been because thats what they were sold as.

paisjpq 02-21-2008 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Don't usually reprint articles, but need to in this case so all get up to speed on Wednesday's California confab on the synthetic surfaces...

ummm links work fine....you did NOT need to reprint the article. one set of rules for steve and another set for the rest of the world? WTF? you know better.

Kasept 02-21-2008 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
ummm links work fine.... WTF? you know better.

:p

KY_Sasquash 02-21-2008 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
How about they go back to dirt instead of looking even dumber than they have already

Why would they want to do that? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: They might have to admit they messed up severely.

blackthroatedwind 02-21-2008 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
ummm links work fine....you did NOT need to reprint the article. one set of rules for steve and another set for the rest of the world? WTF? you know better.

I would have emphasized NEED and not NOT. Otherwise.......love the anger.

ddthetide 02-21-2008 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
ummm links work fine....you did NOT need to reprint the article. one set of rules for steve and another set for the rest of the world? WTF? you know better.

it's SB's world... we're just allowed to live in it.:D

ddthetide 02-21-2008 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by estreetposse
How much $$$ will it cost the tracks to re-apply materials every 7 months?

what if they'd go back to a dirt surface. make it sandy, softer and deeper and slow the horses down?

KY_Sasquash 02-21-2008 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ddthetide
what if they'd go back to a dirt surface. make it sandy, softer and deeper and slow the horses down?


Exactly and I bet they could do that with a couple of million.

estreetposse 02-21-2008 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ddthetide
what if they'd go back to a dirt surface. make it sandy, softer and deeper and slow the horses down?

I don't know...what if?

paisjpq 02-21-2008 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I would have emphasized NEED and not NOT. Otherwise.......love the anger.


wish I had consulted with you first....and thank you.

paisjpq 02-21-2008 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ddthetide
it's SB's world... we're just allowed to live in it.:D


actually it's BW's world.

jpops757 02-21-2008 11:07 AM

Im not even close to an expert on this.About the only thing they all agree on is Pro=ride made it better.Vets used stats to prove opposite results. A big thing in my opinion was the shoe issue. No shoes and the harm of toe grabs. Are we just scratching the "surface". More things than the track surface involved here but the track surface is the one that involves BIG BUCKS and can promise anything and deliver nothing. All the time claiming its not my fault. Is this just a set up to make pro-ride the front runner. I havent heard any one knocking the tapeta surface.

justindew 02-21-2008 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
wish I had consulted with you first....and thank you.

Don't thank him. You were right. He is wrong.

Coach Pants 02-21-2008 01:09 PM

Seems like they could put in a trampoline-like surface to protect the ninnies and their horsies.

estreetposse 02-21-2008 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I don't know.


Me neither...


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