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Dunbar 02-06-2008 04:39 PM

Offshore Kentucky Derby futures
 
TheGreek has future odds up for the Derby. These are fixed odds. Whatever the odds are when you bet, those are your odds. If the horse doesn't start, tough luck.

In every case, TheGreek's odds are higher than the morning line for the Ky Derby Future Wager, Pool 1. (sometimes just barely higher, but sometimes 3 times as high.) Pyro and War Pass, both 12-1 in the Future Wager, are 18-1 at TheGreek.

Anak Nakal ** 40.5 (20)
Atoned ** 40.5
Alaazo ** 60.5
Beresford ** 80.5
Colonel John ** 30.5 (30)
Court Vision ** 22.5 (12)
Country Star ** 40.5
Cowboy Cal ** 40.5 (20)
Denis of Cork ** 40.5 (30)
Dixie Chatter ** 60.5
El Gato Malo ** 20.5 (15)
Etched ** 42.5 (15)
Georgie Boy ** 42.5 (20)
Giant Moon ** 60.5 (20)
Gold Coyote ** 80.5
Into Mischief ** 30.5 (20)
Kodiac Kowboy ** 52.5
Maimonides ** 40.5
Majestic Warrior ** 30.5 (15)
Monba ** 30.5 (30)
Nownownow ** 80.5
Pyro ** 18.15(12)
Signature Move ** 60.5 (50)
Smooth Air ** 62.5 (20)
Tale of Ekati ** 48.5 (20)
Visionaire ** 42.5
War Pass ** 18.15 (12)
Wicked Style ** 65.5
Z Fortune ** 52.5 (20)
Z Humor ** 42.5 (15)

Number in parenthesis is the Pool 1 Morning line.

Four horses from the Future Pool are not listed at TheGreek.

--Dunbar

TheSpyder 02-07-2008 05:36 AM

Bodog odds
 
Adriano

90/1

Alaazo

80/1

Anak Nakal

25/1

Arcaro

90/1

Atoned

30/1

Barrier Reef

40/1

Belafonte

200/1

Beresford

40/1

Betatron

100/1

Blackberry Road

35/1

Bob Black Jack

50/1

Cafe Tortoni

30/1

Cannonball

25/1

Canyon Drive

100/1

Cave's Valley

100/1

Celestial Comet

150/1

Celina Slew

200/1

Chanjo

100/1

Check It Twice

35/1

Cherokee Triangle

35/1

Chitoz

40/1

Coal Play

85/1

Coast Guard

70/1

Cobra Strike

200/1

Colonel John

20/1

Commandeered

100/1

Cool Coal Man

80/1

Country Star

35/1

Court Vision

20/1

Cowboy Cal

13/1

Crackalackin

90/1

Dazzling Derek

90/1

Denis of Cork

50/1

Dixie Chatter

30/1

Dr. Nick

100/1

Drill Down

40/1

Dynamalt

150/1

E Z's Gentleman

200/1

Eagle Strike

35/1

El Gato Malo

10/1

Elinvar

80/1

Elysium Fields

80/1

Etched

30/1

Fed Watcher

100/1

Fidelio

80/1

Flint River

100/1

Gayego

50/1

Georgetown

100/1

Georgie Boy

25/1

Giant Moon

50/1

Gio Ponti

100/1

Globalization

100/1

Globetrotter

30/1

Gold Coyote

30/1

Golden Spikes

100/1

Good Man Dan

100/1

Halo Najib

50/1

Hard Strike

80/1

He's Eze

150/1

Hyrule

50/1

IBN Khaldun

150/1

Il Girasole

100/1

Imaginary Sailor

150/1

Immortal Eyes

100/1

Indian Blessing

40/1

Indian Sun

35/1

Indy Joe

150/1

Into Mischief

12/1

Isle of Giants

125/1

J BE K

80/1

Jedi Code

40/1

Kanan Dume

80/1

Kodiak Kowboy

20/1

Lantana Mob

40/1

Law Enforcement

100/1

Legacy Thief

100/1

Leonides

30/1

Liberian Fighter

200/1

Lieutenant Ron

100/1

Little Nick

200/1

Lizard Island

100/1

Luvandgo

100/1

Macho Again

125/1

Mad Flatter

125/1

Maimonides

40/1

Maite Empire

100/1

Majestic Warrior

30/1

Major General

100/1

Make The Point

100/1

Mambo in Seattle

150/1

Man of the West

100/1

Massive Drama

30/1

Monba

30/1

Mushka

100/1

Mythical Pegasus

200/1

New Approach

40/1

Nownownow

20/1

Numaany

70/1

Old Man Buck

70/1

Old Ninety Eight

70/1

Overbid

80/1

Overextended

100/1

Paint

60/1

Por Que

100/1

Preachin Man

100/1

Prussian

40/1

Pyro

10/1

Racecar Rhapsody

40/1

Ready's Echo

50/1

Ready's Image

70/1

Real Appeal

40/1

Riley Tucker

100/1

Rio De La Plata

40/1

Roman Emperor

70/1

Salute the Sarge

60/1

Sargent Seattle

100/1

Senor Afortunado

60/1

Shore Do

100/1

Sierra Sunset

60/1

Signature Move

50/1

Silver Edition

75/1

Slew's Tiznow

40/1

Smooth Air

40/1

Sok Sok

100/1

Spanky Fischbein

80/1

Star Defender

80/1

Stevil

100/1

Stungbythestorm

80/1

Tale of Ekati

35/1

Talk of a Cat

100/1

Texas Fever

70/1

Texas Wildcatter

70/1

The Darp

150/1

The Leopard

80/1

The Roundhouse

50/1

Tiz It

80/1

Turf War

100/1

US Cavalry

70/1

Unbridled Wish

40/1

Valdero

150/1

Victory Pete

50/1

Visionaire

70/1

Wall Street Humor

100/1

War Pass

25/1

Web Gem

100/1

West Coast Coach

100/1

Whatever Whenever

40/1

Why Tonto

40/1

Wicked Style

40/1

Wincat

70/1

Winsome Charm

70/1

Wise Answer

100/1

Yankee Bravo

40/1

Yonegwa

100/1

Your Round

100/1

Z Fortune

100/1

Z Humor

35/1

Field (Any Other Horse Not Listed)

3/1

Dunbar 02-07-2008 09:22 AM

In addition to TheGreek and Bodog, World Sports Exch (wsex.com) also has futures up. Here are the best odds for the 23 individual entries in the parimutual Future Wager using those 3 offshores:

Anak Nakal 45.5 TheGreek
Blackberry Road 40 WSEX
Bob Black Jack 80 WSEX
Colonel John 30.5 TheGreek
Court Vision 22.5 TheGreek
Cowboy Cal 40.5 TheGreek
Crown of Thorns 14 WSEX
Denis of Cork 50 BoDog
El Gato Malo 20.5 TheGreek
Etched 42.5 TheGreek
Georgie Boy 42.5 TheGreek
Giant Moon 60.5 TheGreek
Into Mischief 30.5 TheGreek
Majestic Warrior 30.5 TheGreek
Monba 30.5 TheGreek
Pyro 20 WSEX
Signature Move 60.5 TheGreek
Smooth Air 62.5 TheGreek
Tale of Ekati 48.5 TheGreek
War Pass 25 BoDog
Yankee Bravo 40 BoDog
Z Fortune 100 BoDog
Z Humor 60 WSEX

TheGreek has best odds on 14 entries, Bodog has best odds on 4 entries, and WSEX has best odds on 5.

You could very likely bet on every horse in this list (at the best odds shown) along with the "All others" in the parimutual Future Wager, and have a profitable arbitrage.

--Dunbar

wac 02-07-2008 11:59 AM

I have a future bet on Blackberry Road at 150-1 but the more i look at him the more i realize that this horse is not going to win KD134. If i had it to do all over again would probably put the money on Monba. Im curious to know what people think the closing odds on the horses on the list will be.

brianwspencer 02-07-2008 12:38 PM

Cowboy Cal is the fourth choice at Bodog?

Crazy.

NTamm1215 02-07-2008 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wac
I have a future bet on Blackberry Road at 150-1 but the more i look at him the more i realize that this horse is not going to win KD134. If i had it to do all over again would probably put the money on Monba. Im curious to know what people think the closing odds on the horses on the list will be.

I would not trade 150-1 on Blackberry Road right now. He has a bit of an aversion to winning, but I'm expecting a breakthrough performance on Saturday.

NT


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