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pgardn 01-26-2008 04:21 PM

1:06
 
Are they running down hill?
Ridiculous.

Horse sets all those blazing fractions and wins.

Coach Pants 01-26-2008 04:22 PM

Yeah and it looked like a horse pulled up on the backstretch.

Just a disgrace what's going on out west.

TheSpyder 01-26-2008 04:22 PM

Is that the fastest 6f ever? Never heard that fast.

tiggerv 01-26-2008 04:23 PM

I love Santa Anita but it's a real joke right now. I believe they said 1:06:53 is a world record time.

pgardn 01-26-2008 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
Yeah and it looked like a horse pulled up on the backstretch.

Just a disgrace what's going on out west.

He did or was just hand ridden.
This is just a joke.

cowgirlintexas 01-26-2008 04:25 PM

they need to do away with the Ambulances chasing the horses and have firetrucks instead... Unreal!!

pgardn 01-26-2008 04:30 PM

Most horses cant fall off a 6 furlong tall building in that time.

Alan07 01-26-2008 04:31 PM

They will probally not consider this a world record

Indian Charlie 01-26-2008 05:09 PM

setting the absurd time aside (how about that half in 42 and change?), that is one hell of a nice sprinter!

gonna be hard to beat come bc sprint time, provided he's still alive.

Coach Pants 01-26-2008 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
setting the absurd time aside (how about that half in 42 and change?), that is one hell of a nice sprinter!

gonna be hard to beat come bc sprint time, provided he's still alive.

....or his shoe didn't melt into his hoof.

SOREHOOF 01-27-2008 08:15 AM

Speed crazy Santa Anita is back. Just scrape half that Polycrap (Cushioncrap?) off. They would probably go 1:00 flat with rubber shoes.

Danzig 01-27-2008 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan07
They will probally not consider this a world record

if they verify the time, that the timer wasn't off, i don't see why it would not be.

pgardn 01-27-2008 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
if they verify the time, that the timer wasn't off, i don't see why it would not be.

The big race at 9f went 1:45 and 6/10... thats 3/5 s off the record.

2Hot4TV 01-27-2008 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
if they verify the time, that the timer wasn't off, i don't see why it would not be.

The track at Santa Anita was set up to use as an emergency use only and they will not use the surface again in that condition. The races will be cancelled today and they will start to work on repairing the drainage problems with a new mix of the existing surface.

Now if other tracks around the world start recording 6f times in the parking lot of Lowes then it's a world record, until then it's just trivia.

2Hot4TV 01-27-2008 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
The big race at 9f went 1:45 and 6/10... thats 3/5 s off the record.

This was from horses that are running in a restricted state bred race and they were a cut below record setting graded stakes winners.

The Indomitable DrugS 01-27-2008 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV
This was from horses that are running in a restricted state bred race and they were a cut below record setting graded stakes winners.

Turf horses seem to excell in route races on all synthetics.

They've got a surface at Del Mar where the Pacific Classic is run in a glacial 2:07 and change and horses struggle home after firm rating - and on the SA surface - A Cal Bred 3yo in Jan is capable of posting a 1:06 2/5th clocking over the Bonneville Salt Flats like Cushion track.

SCUDSBROTHER 01-27-2008 12:58 PM

I have zero problem calling a track speed-biased when I see it taking place.I look at that 3rd race..o.k.,and I see 50k claiming 3 year old fillies going pretty fast for 4 furlongs.That's simply(to me) not as important(the time) as how far back the raters in the race are.Fact is(even though the time says they scorched up front) the 2 raters are not overly far back.They have decent position going into the turn of that sprint.Matter of fact,one of those raters got up late for a deadheat.If you want to see who the track is favoring,look to see where raters are in the middle of sprint races.If it's speed-biased,they will be pretty badly out of position going into the turn.Instead of 5-7 lengths off, they will be like 10-12 lengths off.Cushion track produces fast times.It's odd,sure,but what matters is whether it's biased,or whether horses are safe running on it.50k claiming 3 year old fillies ran what? 108.38? on the old dirt track it would have been about 109 4/5-1:10.So,add about that much to the horse who ran the wicked 106 n' change.It would equate to about 1:08 in change.He is very fast.The guy doesn't have many horses.So,good for him.

pgardn 01-27-2008 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Turf horses seem to excell in route races on all synthetics.
They've got a surface at Del Mar where the Pacific Classic is run in a glacial 2:07 and change and horses struggle home after firm rating - and on the SA surface - A Cal Bred 3yo in Jan is capable of posting a 1:06 2/5th clocking over the Bonneville Salt Flats like Cushion track.

Jerry Bailey agrees with you.
If that means anything.

Danzig 01-27-2008 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV
The track at Santa Anita was set up to use as an emergency use only and they will not use the surface again in that condition. The races will be cancelled today and they will start to work on repairing the drainage problems with a new mix of the existing surface.

Now if other tracks around the world start recording 6f times in the parking lot of Lowes then it's a world record, until then it's just trivia.


look, i understand about the track, the surface, and the speedy times being laid down.
but unless the timer malfunctioned, it'll go in the record books. it may not make it right, and the time may be an anomaly...but this isn't the first time a record was broken by a horse not considered to be a really good horse.


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