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Scav 01-16-2008 10:03 PM

Pick 6 Structuring Excel Sheet
 
So I was bored all day today and I got to thinking about something I read where people are writing down all these P6 tickets and how hilarious it looks and disorganized. I created an Microsoft Excel spreadsheet today that eliminates all that and is fairly easy to use. All you have to do is put your A's, B's and C's into the proper area (See Below) and it will separate your A's, B's and C's for you, and it will keep track of your cost and everything. The only 'cells' that you can add stuff to is in the 'grey' shaded boxes, everything else is locked so someone with less Excel experience doesn't go and delete some of the formulas.

When adding the numbers, add them using a space between and not a comma, so within the 'cell' it should look like this

1 2 7 8

It should not look like

1,2,7,8

Attachment 633

It uses the below structure.

A,B / A,B / A,B / A,B / A,B / A,B
C / A / A / A / A / A
A / C / A / A / A / A
A / A / C / A / A / A
A / A / A / C / A / A
A / A / A / A / C / A
A / A / A / A / A / C


Play around with it and if you have any questions let me know, I think some people will find it useful.

Note: I just tried to upload an Excel file and it wouldn't allow me to upload it, so I might have to give it to Steve and let him upload it. I'll let him look at it before he posts it for the masses.

If anyone wants it ahead of time, PM me an email address and I'll get it out....

Scav 01-16-2008 10:16 PM

Attachment 637
Attachment 636

Riot 01-17-2008 01:48 AM

Scav - very cool!

docicu3 01-17-2008 02:13 AM

I tried to do this Scav's and failed miserably......nice job!!

Bigsmc 01-17-2008 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
So I was bored all day today and I got to thinking about something I read where people are writing down all these P6 tickets and how hilarious it looks and disorganized. I created an Microsoft Excel spreadsheet today that eliminates all that and is fairly easy to use. All you have to do is put your A's, B's and C's into the proper area (See Below) and it will separate your A's, B's and C's for you, and it will keep track of your cost and everything. The only 'cells' that you can add stuff to is in the 'grey' shaded boxes, everything else is locked so someone with less Excel experience doesn't go and delete some of the formulas.

When adding the numbers, add them using a space between and not a comma, so within the 'cell' it should look like this

1 2 7 8

It should not look like

1,2,7,8

Attachment 633

It uses the below structure.

A,B / A,B / A,B / A,B / A,B / A,B
C / A / A / A / A / A
A / C / A / A / A / A
A / A / C / A / A / A
A / A / A / C / A / A
A / A / A / A / C / A
A / A / A / A / A / C


Play around with it and if you have any questions let me know, I think some people will find it useful.

Note: I just tried to upload an Excel file and it wouldn't allow me to upload it, so I might have to give it to Steve and let him upload it. I'll let him look at it before he posts it for the masses.

If anyone wants it ahead of time, PM me an email address and I'll get it out....

Now that is making something constructive with your free time. Nice.

golfer 01-17-2008 06:10 AM

If there are suddenly no pick 6 carryovers, anywhere, we'll know why. And it will be all your fault!:)

Danzig 01-17-2008 06:55 AM

nice job scavs.

i bought windows xp for dummies, so i felt your pain when you were asking for help with formulas. luckily someone had the answers so i didn't have to go find that thing, but it's helpful!

as for your spreadsheet, definitely useful! especially for a novice pick 6 player such as myself, so that you don't have to try to figure the cost of a ticket.

cowgirlintexas 01-17-2008 06:59 AM

Thanks for creating this Scav. Was always wishing something like this would be created. Hate having to think to hard ya know? ;) Look forward to using it in todays pick 6.

KY_Sasquash 01-17-2008 08:47 AM

Thats really cool. Nice work!

pmacdaddy 01-17-2008 09:39 AM

Nice work!

I think modeling a Crist style pk4 play would be an interesting variation. Think it would actully be quite a bit more complicated.

Have to assign $ amount to AA series based on confidence level (probably ($1-$5). . Same $1 AC tickets as 6.

I think best part would be ease of structuring the any 2A's and any 2B's tickets. Instead of throwing a single $1 or $2 AB ticket. Thought being if you don't get home 2A's you don't "deserve" to hit. AB players (like myself) are likely wasting $$ on ABBB and BBBB tickets.

I would research, but seems silly to get so refined when I can't string together much of anything lately...could be a good tool for players with real ability.

Scav 01-17-2008 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmacdaddy
Nice work!

I think modeling a Crist style pk4 play would be an interesting variation. Think it would actully be quite a bit more complicated.

Have to assign $ amount to AA series based on confidence level (probably ($1-$5). . Same $1 AC tickets as 6.

I think best part would be ease of structuring the any 2A's and any 2B's tickets. Instead of throwing a single $1 or $2 AB ticket. Thought being if you don't get home 2A's you don't "deserve" to hit. AB players (like myself) are likely wasting $$ on ABBB and BBBB tickets.

I would research, but seems silly to get so refined when I can't string together much of anything lately...could be a good tool for players with real ability.

Pat, if you give me the structure you want, I can most likely put it together within excel now that I have the formula writing down. You can actually use the same file for Pick four, although it doesn't multiple the AB/AB/AB/AB out for some reason....but for organization purposes it works well

pmacdaddy 01-17-2008 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
Pat, if you give me the structure you want, I can most likely put it together within excel now that I have the formula writing down. You can actually use the same file for Pick four, although it doesn't multiple the AB/AB/AB/AB out for some reason....but for organization purposes it works well

Thanks. Definitely make some pk4 play this weekend. I will use your sheet for organizational purposes and see what formatting I would use for ticket structure.

I have tried to structure that 2A, 2B ticket structure manually and it takes a lot of doing (and end up with lots of tix). But it can shave some bucks off the ticket cost. Especially if you use a lot of B's.

Take a mythical series. We can forget about AA and AC's.

Leg #1
A - 1,2
B - 3,4

Leg #2
A - 1
B - 2,3

Leg #3
A - 1,2
B - 3

Leg #4
A - 1,2
B - 3

Total AB cost on a buck is 4 X 3 X 3 X 3 = $108

To me, preferred play is as follows.

AAAA 2 X 1 X 2 X 2 = $8

BAAA 2 X 1 x 2 X 2 = $8

BBAA. 2 X 2 X 2 X 2 = $16

BABA 2 X 1 X 1 X 2 = $4

BAAB 2 X 1 X 2 X 2 = $8

ABAA 2 X 2 X 2 X 2 = $16

ABBA 2 X 2 X 1 X 2 = $8

ABAB 2 X 2 X 2 X 1 = $8

AABA 2 X 2 X 1 X 2 = $8

AABB 2 X 2 X 1 X 1 = $4

AAAB 2 X 2 X 2 X 1 = $8

Total AB Cost = $108

Total Multi Ticket Cost = $96

% Savings = 11%

The dollars don't seem like much, but reducing ticket cost by 11% is nothing to sneeze at. Figure if total tickets were $175 with additional AA and AC covers, it's still almost 7%. Also, when there are more B's than example the % savings can get quite a bit higher.

Tough to zig zag. But personally, I have never hit BBBB or ABBB.

Anyone take it to this extreme?


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