It happened again! (End tote malfunction)
 

Past posting at Aqueduct yesterday:

http://www.nypost.com/seven/01042008...g_a_727368.htm

Cannon says don't worry about it. No big deal, it was a one time thing.

From Jerry Bossert's column in the Daily News:

According to a press release issued by the NYRA, the stewards followed standard procedure, pressing the button to end wagering just as the first race was about to begin, but the stop order did not register, the NYRA alleges.

"We know that only $81 came in on-track after the race went off, resulting in one winning daily double ticket that returned $11.40," said NYRA Executive VP and COO Hal Handel. "However, we cannot tell what kind of late wagering, if any, was done off-site."

The back-up system in the tote room also malfunctioned, according to NYRA.

"The failure to end wagering at the proper time is absolutely unacceptable," Handel stated. "We have conducted an internal investigation regarding the two malfunctions and will improve the process in both the steward's stand and the tote room."

Just how much can you improve "process?"

Push button when race starts.... button don't work.... Yell, "Oh, S**t".... Start pulling plugs.

It's not process, it's technology.

What did they actualy have do to get wagering stopped?

Of course it is happening a lot more than people think. The technology in this game is so outdated in every facet of the sport it boggles the mind.

Cannon said it isn't. I'll believe him instead of some National Enquirer-esque story in the Post.

I guess I was wrong. Since it seems to be such a big problem, maybe you guys should just wait till the race starts to make your bets.

We should just ignore it I guess. No big deal, business as usual. Fuk the bettors. We wouldn't want to move to 1990s technology just yet.

I doubt that you personally are "doing" anything about the problem. If so please enlighten me to your contributions other than criticism of me personally.

If this issue is too great for you to overcome maybe you should abandon horse racing until the problem is solved and focus your energies on the Belgium bobsledding team.

Oh boy.

Just admit that he's right...because that's really what it's all about.

Past posting is more than a chronic annoying issue, it's a detriment to the game. How many times does a front runner's odds drop at the 1/4 pole? They virtually NEVER go up midrace, which debunks the tracks' claim that it's due to late money not tallied yet. Obviously someone with a lot of capital has access to the pools past the time the gates open more than some crappy "expose" of some schmucks betting $81 on an even money shot and it getting caught by the track.

Oh get off your high horse. I said that "they said it was a one time thing" and I had no reason not to believe them. This was at Aqueduct which is not the Fair Grounds last I looked. You both act as I have something to do with the problem. The problem I'm sure has been around as long as tote systems have been around and most likely occurs less now than ever. The difference is that now information is much more readily available and people, like me, are becoming more aware of the issue.

The bettors 'dont matter crap' is tiresome. In the entire history of horseracing the bettors have never been considered or listened to more than they are now. Are things perfect? Of course not, but if you look back 20 years you will see things have improved considerably.

As a horseman should I chastise you if you bet with an off shore acount that pays a rebate? I mean you are betting on the product that we put on yet we are receiving no revenue from it. Do you feel guilty that you are hurting the sport for your own personal gain? It goes both ways, dude.

As for what you can do? Write letters, document your wagering and say it will be moved to other locations if the problem isn't addresses. Bring it up on these boards before it is written about in the paper. Call in to Steve's radio show and air your gripes in public. Start a petition that gets big enough that it gets some publicity. Or just bitch at me and whine that bettors are getting screwed and keep on betting.

That sucks

The odds drop in most cases because the money getting bet late off track takes time to get into the system, not because people are betting at the 1/4 pole. Correct me if I am wrong but I believe it goes on 60 second cycles which obviously are too long.

Oh this was at a different track so you're still right.

Yeah we should do a million degenerate gambler march on Washington to get our message across.

Or you can do nothing and make witty internet posts.

Yeah that's what I'll do because I don't work for a racetrack and it isn't my job to update Windows NT for the stupiD *********** that you defend.