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pdrift1 07-13-2006 01:35 PM

10 cent superfectas vs the 1 or 2 dollar
 
my question to you all , mainly the bigger players is should there be a seperate pool and is this fair for the 10 cent players to take out of the same pool? and is thier a big disadvantage on getting a better payout on the 1 or 2 then with the 10 centers dipping in by being able to take more horses. never played it but wonder how this shakes out with you cappers and your feelings on this

ddthetide 07-13-2006 01:53 PM

I LOVE the $.10 supers !! but i'm not a big player.
3 weeks ago i hit 3 $.10 supers in 3 days! total payouts on the 3 were close to $250. i only had $7.20 in the 3 bets. not a bad return!

jpops757 07-13-2006 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by pdrift1
my question to you all , mainly the bigger players is should there be a seperate pool and is this fair for the 10 cent players to take out of the same pool? and is thier a big disadvantage on getting a better payout on the 1 or 2 then with the 10 centers dipping in by being able to take more horses. never played it but wonder how this shakes out with you cappers and your feelings on this

It is no different than the $2 win as opposed to the$1000 win bet.

pdrift1 07-13-2006 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jpops757
It is no different than the $2 win as opposed to the$1000 win bet.

i understand that but why do some handicappers complain about it then?

Scav 07-13-2006 02:29 PM

They are stupid to complain about it because all it does is benefit the superfecta player. Here is why

1) More stupid money in the pool, not alot of people played Supers because they are hard to hit, but when 1500 people throw in $3 for a .10 ticket, taht is another $4500 in the pool that generally wasn't there

2) Tax implications: All they have to do is play the ticket 10 times and you have it for $1.

Race 1 at Scav Downs comes up 1/2/3/4 and the super pays $605 per $1

Lets say person A plays a $1 super ticket 1/2/3/4

lets say person B plays 10 .10 super tickets 1/2/3/4

Person A is paying taxes and Person B is laughing at the person paying taxes because he avoids the $602 law because each of those .10 tickets only paid $60.50

alysheba4 07-13-2006 03:02 PM

yeah plus its fun getting shut out by some idiot making 20 or so .10 bets............:rolleyes:

pdrift1 07-13-2006 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
They are stupid to complain about it because all it does is benefit the superfecta player. Here is why

1) More stupid money in the pool, not alot of people played Supers because they are hard to hit, but when 1500 people throw in $3 for a .10 ticket, taht is another $4500 in the pool that generally wasn't there

2) Tax implications: All they have to do is play the ticket 10 times and you have it for $1.

Race 1 at Scav Downs comes up 1/2/3/4 and the super pays $605 per $1

Lets say person A plays a $1 super ticket 1/2/3/4

lets say person B plays 10 .10 super tickets 1/2/3/4

Person A is paying taxes and Person B is laughing at the person paying taxes because he avoids the $602 law because each of those .10 tickets only paid $60.50

thnx scav that makes sense but can you explain what there side of it is, what is thier main gripes?

pdrift1 07-13-2006 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by alysheba4
yeah plus its fun getting shut out by some idiot making 20 or so .10 bets............:rolleyes:

so your against this then and why what are the reasons?

alysheba4 07-13-2006 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by pdrift1
so your against this then and why what are the reasons?

....well, when someone has less than 2 bucks and have set up camp at the window it kinda gets me pissed off........i mean if you have less than 2 dollars give it up man.

Scav 07-13-2006 03:12 PM

It could be betting a million dollars a race or 20 cents a race, either way, you should be ready and just spit your wager out instead of screwing around at the teller.

Though, I am guilty of it sometimes, especially if I am unsure....98% of the time I just fire, but there is that 2% where I am normal and actually think out a wager

pdrift1 07-13-2006 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by alysheba4
....well, when someone has less than 2 bucks and have set up camp at the window it kinda gets me pissed off........i mean if you have less than 2 dollars give it up man.

is thier any less of a chance of not hitting the pool by not being able to play as many horses or no? does it make them easier to take more horses and hitting more of the pool compared to the 2 bettor taking less horses because yourgoing to be more selective in your choices based on your capping so not to spend excess money to hit it but also decreasing your chances of hitting it?

jpops757 07-13-2006 04:26 PM

We all like to blame someone else for us getting shutout at the wibndow or selfservice machine,but the real reason for the shut-out is ourselves. The bettor that goes to the window and gives the money to the clerk and then looks at the board is the real problem. Any capper should know his bet when he gets to the teller no matter the amount bet. The big bettors have a window reserved for them at every track or simo outlet.

alysheba4 07-13-2006 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by pdrift1
is thier any less of a chance of not hitting the pool by not being able to play as many horses or no? does it make them easier to take more horses and hitting more of the pool compared to the 2 bettor taking less horses because yourgoing to be more selective in your choices based on your capping so not to spend excess money to hit it but also decreasing your chances of hitting it?

........ its a pet peeve, nothing more.

2 Dollar Bill 07-13-2006 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jpops757
We all like to blame someone else for us getting shutout at the wibndow or selfservice machine,but the real reason for the shut-out is ourselves. The bettor that goes to the window and gives the money to the clerk and then looks at the board is the real problem. Any capper should know his bet when he gets to the teller no matter the amount bet. The big bettors have a window reserved for them at every track or simo outlet.

But dont you just love the guy who is @ the window... and looks @ the odds...and says...."" the five,....... [ looks]......... the eight...........
.....[ looks]............. the two...............[ looks]........... and then says..
""what did I tell you allready ""?........then says..... First race @ meadowlands ...which has a post in 5 hours.. from Now..!
LOL

packerbacker7964 07-13-2006 05:48 PM

Why do people wait to place a bet just a few minutes before the post anyway? I find it hard to believe everytime you get shut out the race you were going play hits everytime the way you bet it. Sometimes I say to myself hey he saved me money. I bet when most people get shut out they bitch,cry moan, and complain. On the flip side after being shut out have you ever went up to someone and thanked them for saving you money? Bet early on sure bets people, please for the love of god. They're betting just like everyone else so quit your crying. It's just like leaving home during rush hour to make it to an important event, leave early to make sure you make it on time.

timmgirvan 07-13-2006 05:52 PM

Point of info......Hollywood 5th race .10 super paid 4600 and change...hubba hubba!

2MinsToPost 07-13-2006 05:52 PM

I couldn't hit a tri in a 3 horse race so I won't touch a Super

timmgirvan 07-13-2006 06:33 PM

more fuel for the fire...7th race .10 super....3613 dollars...you're talking about taking a flyer for less than $2...just my .10 cents,lol!

dellinger63 07-13-2006 10:10 PM

everyone gripes when they lose. No complaints when they win. Love when someone hits a signer tri and bitches "I could have had the super!", and I could have been Bill Gates' kid. And they'll say only if Daddy didn't give the money away to prevent human breeding.... Woulda, Coulda, Shoulda.... Nature of the game!!!!
Play dime supers and spread out.....
I don't intead I play pic 3's, 4's with the rest of the "good" cappers but "you can't fix stupid!"


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