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Holland Hacker 12-08-2007 08:27 AM

12/8 - Aqueduct
 
Starting to put together a late pick 4 for the Big A here is what I have so far:

Pre-Scratches & comments:

Race 6:

1 - Multiple Choice (4-1)
2 - Explosive Count (3-1)
3 - Favorite Sweep (3-1)
7 - One Day Soon (10-1)

Race 7:
6 - Southern Prince (5-1)
11 -Eternal Start (3-1)

9 - Americanus (4-1) - Back Up?
12 - Tater Tutt (12-1) - Back Up?

Race 8:
2 - Hunting (9/5)
3 - Evening Attire (4-1)

Race 9:
4 - Town Doc (12-1)
6 -Premier Sarkis (6-1)
7 - Luke a Hurricane (3-1)

Comments & critque are welcome!

Have to run out now to run errands but will check back later for comments.

pmacdaddy 12-08-2007 08:46 AM

Personally, I will be going against Hunting and Evening Attire for the most part. Did not get to watch races from Wed-Fri, but from the charts it looks like speed is still holding well, especially in higher quality races. Like Barcola there.

Here were my final gradings (cut a few C's in the name of budget:

R6
A - 1,2,3
B - X
C - 7,9

R7
A - 6,9,11
B - 3
C - 4,5,8

R8
A - 4
B - 6
C - 2

R9
A - 4,7
B - 1,6
C - 3,8,9

Gonna combined grade and put some tickets together with Pointman if time allows.

Good luck today!

Holland Hacker 12-08-2007 09:12 AM

Looks like the only race we disagree on is the 8th.

I'm looking for a closer and you're looking for the speed to hang on.

Personally I think there is going to be three or four horses going for the lead which could soften up Barcola for Hunting and the old man.

I'll see how the track is playing in the earlier races and what the changes are and then make any modifications.

Good Luck!

MaTH716 12-08-2007 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holland Hacker
Starting to put together a late pick 4 for the Big A here is what I have so far:

Pre-Scratches & comments:

Race 6:

1 - Multiple Choice (4-1)
2 - Explosive Count (3-1)
3 - Favorite Sweep (3-1)
7 - One Day Soon (10-1)

Race 7:
6 - Southern Prince (5-1)
11 -Eternal Start (3-1)

9 - Americanus (4-1) - Back Up?
12 - Tater Tutt (12-1) - Back Up?

Race 8:
2 - Hunting (9/5)
3 - Evening Attire (4-1)

Race 9:
4 - Town Doc (12-1)
6 -Premier Sarkis (6-1)
7 - Luke a Hurricane (3-1)

Comments & critque are welcome!

Have to run out now to run errands but will check back later for comments.

Agree with almost everything
Race 6
1a,2,3,10:
Actually like the other part of the entry and want to include the 10. New horse on the scene. I know speed has been good, but for some reason it melts here the 10 could be a big price.
Race 7
3,9,11:
I really like the Trombetta horse, looks like he can rate.
Race 8:
2,3:
Really would like to single hunting, but the old man ren well last time and picks up Prado.
Race 9: 7,9,11
The 11 has hit the board alot and has been working well in the mornings.

pmacdaddy 12-08-2007 10:25 AM

Changes up: http://www.equibase.com/premium/changes/AQU-changes.asp

Downthestretch55 12-08-2007 12:07 PM

Race 8- Evening Attire. 'Nuf said. Go get 'em again old warrior. Prado, please give this guy a safe trip. He's 9 but still has got what it takes.
Get 'em EA!

pointman 12-08-2007 01:12 PM

Agree with Pmac on the 8th, the scratch of the 5 helps Barcola. I think that Marital Asset could be a sneaky play here at a bit of a price if he can rate of Barcola, although, the 5 would have helped his causes. If Nkosi Reigns does not press Barcola, Barcola could his way around the track

Holland Hacker 12-08-2007 01:31 PM

Why is Suny's Boy 7/2 down from a ML of 50:1? What am I missing? His published work outs are not that inspiring and the 17 month lay-off does invoke any confidence.

pointman 12-08-2007 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holland Hacker
Why is Sony's Boy 7/2 down from a ML of 50:1? What am I missing?

Just noticed the same. Will be putting him somewhere in the pk4.

Holland Hacker 12-08-2007 01:55 PM

Here are the tickets I finally went with thanks for all of you input & Good Luck:

Main: - Included Barcola after the Scrateches & seeing some speed hold on.

1,2,7 / 6,11 / 2,4 / 4,6,7,9

Back Up: Just couldn't leave out EA.

2,7 / 6,9,11 / 2,3 / 7,9

pointman 12-08-2007 02:01 PM

Pk 4's split with Pmac

1,2,3/4,6,9,11/2,4,6/1,4,7

1,2,3,5/4,6,9,11/4/7

4,5,6,7,8,9,20/4,6,9,11/4/7

1,2,3,5/5,8/4/4,7

1,2/4,6,9,11/4/3,6,8,9,10

pmacdaddy 12-08-2007 02:25 PM

Hey Nick - Glad we did combined grading. Boosted that 7th race winner from a "C" to an "A". Good call by you there!

pointman 12-08-2007 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmacdaddy
Hey Nick - Glad we did combined grading. Boosted that winner from a "C" to an "A". Good call by you there!

Thanks Pat, loved the 4 in that spot. Let's get em today, prices are just fine so far.

pmacdaddy 12-08-2007 02:51 PM

F Me... How does EA catch him there???

Good for the old man, bad for us...

pointman 12-08-2007 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmacdaddy
F Me... How does EA catch him there???

Good for the old man, bad for us...

Unbelievable, Barcola had no excuse, they let him walk on the lead just like I thought they would. And look at the damn willpays, Barcola would have brought similar numbers. F me, too.

SentToStud 12-08-2007 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmacdaddy
F Me... How does EA catch him there???

Good for the old man, bad for us...

I do not know. That was the wrong thing I didn't want to see.

jms62 12-08-2007 02:59 PM

The Will pays seem off at NYRA.com.. Does anyone have the Pick 3 Will pays for AQU on the 5-7-9

pointman 12-08-2007 03:00 PM

Barcola may have come down even if he won, pushed EA way out in the stretch. That was a killer for us. :mad:

pmacdaddy 12-08-2007 03:20 PM

Peconic Bay's win makes the 8th a moot point for us. Didn't even cover as a "C". Just another $38K pick4 at Aqueduct...

jms62 12-08-2007 05:05 PM

LOL... So I don't play the Pick 4 today, instead I made the following play.. Geesh, lovely score but what could have been.... (I tried uploading hte jpegs but they weren't displayed).

Transaction DetailsDate: December 8, 2007 Time: 15:16:48
Transaction Number: 72607744919 Transaction Type: Bet Track Name: AQUEDUCT Race Number: 7 Stake: $1.00 Pool: Pick 3
Selections: 4,6/2,3/5-7,9 Total
Bet Amount: $16.00
Win Credit: $1011.50

======
Transaction DetailsDate: December 8, 2007 Time: 14:47:13
Transaction Number: 63398500919 Transaction Type: Bet Track Name: AQUEDUCT Race Number: 6 Stake: $2.00 Pool: Exacta
Selections: 1,2/3 Total
Bet Amount: $4.00
Win Credit: $23.60


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