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eajinabi 11-10-2007 12:40 PM

Greg Gilchrist
 
This guy is scoring at 40% this year so far

40 wins out of 100 starts.

Scav 11-10-2007 12:47 PM

And from some recent research on www.chrb.ca.gov, NO DRUG POSITIVES :)

eajinabi 11-10-2007 12:53 PM

correction,

with that win at Calder today he is now 41%

-BT- 11-10-2007 01:19 PM

i'd be interested to see how many of those wins came from over a mile in distance. The guy is a sprinter specialist, about the only good thing NoCal has going for it.

One of his primary owners Harry Aleo is really hard, he gave one of those espn reporters the business a few years back


-bt-

Kasept 11-10-2007 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by -BT-
i'd be interested to see how many of those wins came from over a mile in distance. The guy is a sprinter specialist, about the only good thing NoCal has going for it.

One of his primary owners Harry Aleo is really hard, he gave one of those espn reporters the business a few years back


-bt-

I wouldn't call Aleo 'hard'... The question he was asked by the numbskull was to compare his experiences with Lost in the Fog with his experiences in the Battle of the Bulge. Aleo had an appropriate response!

Gilchrist is one of the best-liked trainers anywhere in the game. Got to spend a good amount of time with him Cup Week. He's also a legendary guy to hang with at a watering hole...

Athletics005 11-10-2007 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
And from some recent research on www.chrb.ca.gov, NO DRUG POSITIVES :)



Gilchrist Cited in CHRB Complaint
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Date Posted: November 10, 2007
Last Updated: November 10, 2007

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Trainer Greg Gilchrist faces a California Horse Racing Board complaint after a horse in his care, Yodelay You're Who, exceeded the allowable threshold for procaine in a post-race sample taken at Bay Meadows.

The Ken Maddy Laboratory at University of California-Davis made the determination, which is a Class 3 violation. Industrial Laboratories confirmed the finding of procaine in the duplicate sample above the authorized level. Procaine is a local anesthetic but is also found in penicillin G antibiotic preparations.

Yodelay You're Who finished first in the second race at Bay Meadows on Sept. 26, 2007. A hearing is scheduled Dec. 14.

Scav 11-10-2007 06:46 PM

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Gilchrist Cited in CHRB Complaint
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Trainer Greg Gilchrist faces a California Horse Racing Board complaint after a horse in his care, Yodelay You're Who, exceeded the allowable threshold for procaine in a post-race sample taken at Bay Meadows.

The Ken Maddy Laboratory at University of California-Davis made the determination, which is a Class 3 violation. Industrial Laboratories confirmed the finding of procaine in the duplicate sample above the authorized level. Procaine is a local anesthetic but is also found in penicillin G antibiotic preparations.

Yodelay You're Who finished first in the second race at Bay Meadows on Sept. 26, 2007. A hearing is scheduled Dec. 14.

Ok, proof I suck at research

Athletics005 11-10-2007 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Ok, proof I suck at research


No, this was reported 20mins ago. Huge coincidence.

Scav 11-10-2007 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Athletics005
No, this was reported 20mins ago. Huge coincidence.

I continue to mush everything I am in contact or speak about. :)

The Indomitable DrugS 11-10-2007 07:45 PM

Gilchrist isn't exactly a saint.

High Resolve, that undefeated Put It Back filly who won the Calder Stake today and is now 3-for-3.....she was in my stable-mail before she ever made her career debut.

Now, she worked an unblinkered quarter mile in 21 1/5 at OBS April - the outright fastest unblinkered work at a sale that features something like a 1,500 page catalog. High Resolve sells for 135K.

Prior to her eventual career debut, Gilchrist entered her in a 25K maiden claiming race - as part of an uncoupled entry. Was allowed to scratch her - so his other maiden could be favored in a four horse field.

It was pretty obvious he never had any intention of giving HR away for 25K - he just wanted that race to fill for his other horse.

Much like a Todd Beattie - Gilchrist is a guy who could probably be a dominant trainer on an elite circuit - but instead is Moss like in a small pond.

Although - the 40%+ win percentage is a little inflated....after all - Northern California is the home of the five horse field. Over the last 12 months, Russell Baze is winning at a brobdingnagian 32.5% clip from over 1,200 mounts. Beyond the obvious fact that he rides a lot of favorites, don't think riding in races with small fields on a consistant basis doesn't inflate that win percentage further.

ELA 11-10-2007 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Gilchrist isn't exactly a saint.

High Resolve, that undefeated Put It Back filly who won the Calder Stake today and is now 3-for-3.....she was in my stable-mail before she ever made her career debut.

Now, she worked an unblinkered quarter mile in 21 1/5 at OBS April - the outright fastest unblinkered work at a sale that features something like a 1,500 page catalog. High Resolve sells for 135K.

Prior to her eventual career debut, Gilchrist entered her in a 25K maiden claiming race - as part of an uncoupled entry. Was allowed to scratch her - so his other maiden could be favored in a four horse field.

It was pretty obvious he never had any intention of giving HR away for 25K - he just wanted that race to fill for his other horse.

Much like a Todd Beattie - Gilchrist is a guy who could probably be a dominant trainer on an elite circuit - but instead is Moss like in a small pond.

Although - the 40%+ win percentage is a little inflated....after all - Northern California is the home of the five horse field. Over the last 12 months, Russell Baze is winning at a brobdingnagian 32.5% clip from over 1,200 mounts. Beyond the obvious fact that he rides a lot of favorites, don't think riding in races with small fields on a consistant basis doesn't inflate that win percentage further.

Extremely common. Goes on every day they race. Watch the scratches out of the short fields that go and you will see those horses back in, more often than not, pretty quick.

However, what most people don't know, and it could go either way -- is that very often it's the race often that "hustled" the horse. They know who is going where.

I don't know Gilchrist personally, but I know several people who do. He's respected as a horseman. Small #'s, not a lot of firepower (at least not on a regular basis, until Harry re-invested some more $), and certainly not the pick of the litter. He often throws up some good #'s.

Eric

The Indomitable DrugS 11-10-2007 10:05 PM

I know it happens often - but entering an obvious can't miss prospect like High Resolve for a 25K tag is pretty ridiculous.

Perhaps he can try and top himself by entering Smokey Stover next time he wants to fill a race for one of his high priced claimers.

Scav 11-10-2007 10:30 PM

Drugs just had to get a Moss reference in there. gotta love it


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