Beyer Pace Charts
 

do any of my compadres here happen to have the beyer pace figures chart that were in one of his books as well as the early pace beaten lengths chart. i cant find my book. thanks

Yes, but don't have a scanner ... any way I can just lift some in particular for you?

is it anywhere on the net?

i found the 4 f figs. now i just need the beaten lengths chart at 4 fur
if you can post those i would appreciate

"Beyer on Speed" 2007 ed. pg. 134:

Points are subtracted according to this lengths-behind chart for four furlongs:

Margin Points
hd - 0
nk - 1
1/2 - 1
3/4 - 2
1 - 3
1 1/4 - 4
1 1/2 - 5
1 3/4 - 5
2 - 6
2 1/4 - 7
2 1/2 - 8
2 3/4 - 8
3 - 9
3 1/4 - 10
3 1/2 - 11
3 3/4 - 11
4 - 12
4 1/4 - 13
4 1/2 - 14
4 3/4 - 14
5 - 15

thank you very much

oops, but those are the 5 fur beaten lengths chart

Naw, that's 4f - I rechecked and compared to the 5f in the appendix. That's what's there for 4f. The 5 furlong chart starts with neck-1, 1/2-1, 3/4-2, 1-3, 1 1/4-4 ....

Did you remember to apply track variant?

That sure looks like the 5f chart to me.

Okay, someone else w/ "Beyer on Speed", find your book and help me out, here ? (so I know I am not going crazy) - page 134, 4 f chart, appendix p. 235 5f chart.

Guys, I'm looking right at it :p

You could very well be right that is printed in the book. I know with 100% certainty that those values posted are the ones used for 5f races. Perhaps Beyer is using the same one for 4f pace calls. I don't remember that part, though it would seem strange to do so.

4 f beaten length are different than 5 f beaten lengths. i believe it is something like 1 length is 3 prs at 5f and 4 pts at 4 f. i know the 4 f beaten lengths chart is in one of his books

Um, yeah, it's the one I posted.

As I said, perhaps so, but it looks like a duplicate. What then are the beaten lengths for say, 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 lengths at 5 furlongs in the book?

I have a sneaky suspicion they will be EXACTLY the same as what you posted for 4 furlongs.

Beyer Points = 15/(race distance)*(beaten lengths)

in the appendix of beyer on speed on page 235 it shows what you have listed as the 5 f beaten lengths chart. i really do appreciate the effort though.

If you check to compare, the difference between the 4f chart on p. 134 (that I posted for you), and the 5f chart on p. 235, is at the following beaten length margins (but I'm glad you found your book):

Margin - points

4f: 1 1/2 - 5 5f: 1 1/2 - 4
4f: 2 1/2 - 8 5f: 2 1/2 - 7
4f: 3 1/4 - 10 5f: 3 1/4 - 9
4f: 3 1/2 - 11 5f: 3 1/2 - 10
4f: 4 1/4 - 13 5f: 4 1/4 - 12
4f: 4 1/2 - 14 5f: 4 1/2 - 13

Yes, the charts are the same at those points.

i actually didnt find book. that info was in an online book review where it showed the 4 f ratings but not the beaten lengths chart for 4 f only for 5 f