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Cunningham Racing 07-09-2006 12:33 PM

Churchill Downs is a paved highway AGAIN
 
...maiden fillies just went 1:22 for seven panels, which is ligtning fast for those kind of horses there....Could another track record fall just like we predicted last week when it was easy to see that the track was a speedway and Greater Good set a phony track record?

Looking at the card, maybe Yes Yes Yes or Greeley's Galaxy going 6 1/2 furlongs in the 8th???..Doubt anyone in the stake will do it at seven furlongs, but I do like Rogue Scholar in that race.....

sumitas 07-09-2006 01:32 PM

I cringe when surfaces are like that, like pavement. Hope they install synthetic.

Cunningham Racing 07-09-2006 02:24 PM

Craft Cammack just went 1:08 and change for $40K claimers....Wow!..If he can go that fast, they will definately have a serious chance of breaking the track record in the 8th and 9th races, especially with Yes Yes Yes in the 8th going 6 1/2 panels....watch out!

SentToStud 07-09-2006 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing
...maiden fillies just went 1:22 for seven panels, which is ligtning fast for those kind of horses there....Could another track record fall just like we predicted last week when it was easy to see that the track was a speedway and Greater Good set a phony track record?

Looking at the card, maybe Yes Yes Yes or Greeley's Galaxy going 6 1/2 furlongs in the 8th???..Doubt anyone in the stake will do it at seven furlongs, but I do like Rogue Scholar in that race.....

Bit sharp to call Greater Good's record phony. After all, these are the kind of days track records are set, are they not? Hot, summer, some wind..... The goofy distance was probably the biggest factor. But, a nice enough horse who caught the super fast track... good enough.

Cunningham Racing 07-09-2006 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
Bit sharp to call Greater Good's record phony. After all, these are the kind of days track records are set, are they not? Hot, summer, some wind..... The goofy distance was probably the biggest factor. But, a nice enough horse who caught the super fast track... good enough.

If you say he is a nice horse then that is ceratinly the opinion your entitled to....many analysts in the sport would say that he is a VERY average animal who hadn't won in an ice age, and to set a track record at Churchill Downs is not something to take litely.......this is a serious track with a lot of pride and tradition for it's track records....Greater Good did NOT deserve a track record at that track.....maybe somewhere like Fonner Park..

sumitas 07-09-2006 10:11 PM

So who's record did he break ?

Scurlogue Champ 07-09-2006 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing
If you say he is a nice horse then that is ceratinly the opinion your entitled to....many analysts in the sport would say that he is a VERY average animal who hadn't won in an ice age, and to set a track record at Churchill Downs is not something to take litely.......this is a serious track with a lot of pride and tradition for it's track records....Greater Good did NOT deserve a track record at that track.....maybe somewhere like Fonner Park..


They just said that he was a nice enough horse.

I'm here in Louisville, and consider Churchill to be my home track. I certainly don't mind if he has the track record, and he definitely better than about 80% of what I have seen on the track this spring meet.

He has beaten nice horses on separate occasions in his career, and seems like he has overcame some problems and Holthus had him right for that one.

Who would you prefer hold the track record at that distance, Joel? It seems to me that it wouldn't be a bad thing for a horse trained by a Churchill trainer who has been here year in and year out to run a good race and get a track record.

Rupert Pupkin 07-10-2006 02:49 AM

It's a shame what has happened to that track. They used to have a really good surface there. They totally ruined it. I know that several trainers have complained that they notice a big difference. They say that this surface is not nearly as kind on their horses as the old surface. They say that they have a lot more sore horses now.

Pointg5 07-10-2006 05:49 AM

Kentucky racing is on the downturn, I could care less what goes on there now...

SentToStud 07-10-2006 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing
If you say he is a nice horse then that is ceratinly the opinion your entitled to....many analysts in the sport would say that he is a VERY average animal who hadn't won in an ice age, and to set a track record at Churchill Downs is not something to take litely.......this is a serious track with a lot of pride and tradition for it's track records....Greater Good did NOT deserve a track record at that track.....maybe somewhere like Fonner Park..

Well, he's a 4 year old Graded Stakes winner of over $500,000. Most "analysts" would call him a "nice" horse.

Like I said, the biggest factor, aside from the super-fast condition of the track, was that races are not often run at the distance. You're certainly entitled to your opinion as is everyone.

Don't Get Mad and Buddy Gil needed a telescope to see him at the finish.

JJP 07-10-2006 08:41 AM

I thought the most surprising thing about Greater Good was the amount of early speed he showed. This is a deep closing router, and now he was on even terms with Exciting Metro, a very quick sprinter, after 4 furlongs. It does arouse some suspicions. Maybe he just "got good":rolleyes:


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