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Cannon Shell 09-28-2007 05:46 PM

See ya later Pico
 
http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/bre...sociation.aspx

The Indomitable DrugS 09-28-2007 09:20 PM

The only horse to ever win the Carter, Met Mile, and Vosburgh in the same season is headed to Korea?

I wonder if some of the other recent big hits who came from South America like Candy Ride, Invasor, Leroydesanomeaux etc. will have as tough a go at stud as Pico was having?

Races like the Met, Carter, and Vosburgh are supposed to be among the very elite sire producing races.

Pico was sired by Spend A Buck, who had arguably one of the most brilliant Ky Derby wins ever - setting 45 and change fractions and staying on to take the Derby by 5 or 6 lengths in one of the fastest times ever.

sumitas 09-28-2007 09:24 PM

if you don't have 5 lines of Native Dancer or mega crosses of Northern Dancer and Mr Prospector I guess you are not considered commercial here. don't forget, some genious dumped Sunday Silence on Japan too.

the horses you mentioned were super star sprinters, routers, and turf.

The Indomitable DrugS 09-29-2007 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by sumitas
the horses you mentioned were super star sprinters, routers, and turf.

No doubt.

You just have to wonder how much interest a horse who came from South America will generate at stud.

Candy Ride is right up there with Ghostzapper and Discreet Cat for most talented horse to race this decade - in fact, I know a few very good handicappers out West who think he's #2 to Ghostzapper on talent, and one even believes he was more talented than Ghostzapper.

He once ran a mile on the turf in a world record 1:31 flat while winning a Group 1 race by 8 lengths in a 15 horse field.

He toyed with a perfect trip Madeglia D' Oro in the 1 1/4 mile Pacific Classic on dirt, winning in track record time of 1:59 flat, earning a 123 Beyer figure, and a subsequent Japan Cup Dirt winner was 3rd beaten double digit lengths, a two-time Santa Anita Handicap winner was 4th beaten double digit lengths in that race.

Even though Candy Ride was an undefeated and untested multiple Gr 1 winner on two surfaces in two different countries - and ran legendary fast times - he's still a son of Ride The Rails and his mother is still an unraced Argentinian bred. And I'm sure that's why no one really expects a whole lot from as a stallion.

His first crop will hit the track next year. It will be interesting to see how they do.

sumitas 09-29-2007 01:03 PM

Your pedigree questions are legit. For any horse, Candy Ride included, it is difficult to pass on racing success. The pedigree is important.

paisjpq 09-29-2007 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
No doubt.

You just have to wonder how much interest a horse who came from South America will generate at stud.

Candy Ride is right up there with Ghostzapper and Discreet Cat for most talented horse to race this decade - in fact, I know a few very good handicappers out West who think he's #2 to Ghostzapper on talent, and one even believes he was more talented than Ghostzapper.

He once ran a mile on the turf in a world record 1:31 flat while winning a Group 1 race by 8 lengths in a 15 horse field.

He toyed with a perfect trip Madeglia D' Oro in the 1 1/4 mile Pacific Classic on dirt, winning in track record time of 1:59 flat, earning a 123 Beyer figure, and a subsequent Japan Cup Dirt winner was 3rd beaten double digit lengths, a two-time Santa Anita Handicap winner was 4th beaten double digit lengths in that race.

Even though Candy Ride was an undefeated and untested multiple Gr 1 winner on two surfaces in two different countries - and ran legendary fast times - he's still a son of Ride The Rails and his mother is still an unraced Argentinian bred. And I'm sure that's why no one really expects a whole lot from as a stallion.

His first crop will hit the track next year. It will be interesting to see how they do.

candy ride had some very...for lack of a better word...INTERESTING looking yearlings....I hope they can run, because most of them don't look like much IMO.

sumitas 10-02-2007 12:06 PM

and Forest Camp will accompany Pico to Korea. and Cape Canaveral goes to Alberta.

The Indomitable DrugS 10-02-2007 08:46 PM

First Pico,

Now Forest Camp,

Songandaprayer must be next.

pmayjr 10-02-2007 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
First Pico,

Now Forest Camp,

Songandaprayer must be next.


Don't worry- The Green Monkey will be following them there by November lol.

freddymo 10-03-2007 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paisjpq
candy ride had some very...for lack of a better word...INTERESTING looking yearlings....I hope they can run, because most of them don't look like much IMO.

Interesting=Frogs


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