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pmacdaddy 09-11-2007 08:37 AM
NYS Licensing Question
 
Few quick questions for anyone familiar with NYS Licensing.

Interesting conversation with my wife last night regarding the potential Dee Tee - NYB. After telling her about NYB deal, her response was - "Why don't you get your NY license in case you decide to get involved in a horse on your own, or with a higher ownership percentage?".

After asking her who she was and what she did with my wife... I proceeded to do some research. Few questions:

1). Do you need to have current ownership over 3% to get licensed? Or can a prospective owner get licensed.

2) If you need ownership to be licensed, could an owner with under 3% choose to get licensed?

3) Can you get fingerprinting done at Belmont Racing office.

4) What the heck is the new Workers Comp affadavit? Does this apply to owner applications.

The State website is about as clear as mud... Any guidance would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Pat

SniperSB23 09-11-2007 08:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pmacdaddy
Few quick questions for anyone familiar with NYS Licensing.

Interesting conversation with my wife last night regarding the potential Dee Tee - NYB. After telling her about NYB deal, her response was - "Why don't you get your NY license in case you decide to get involved in a horse on your own, or with a higher ownership percentage?".

After asking her who she was and what she did with my wife... I proceeded to do some research. Few questions:

1). Do you need to have current ownership over 3% to get licensed? Or can a prospective owner get licensed.

2) If you need ownership to be licensed, could an owner with under 3% choose to get licensed?

3) Can you get fingerprinting done at Belmont Racing office.

4) What the heck is the new Workers Comp affadavit? Does this apply to owner applications.

The State website is about as clear as mud... Any guidance would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Pat
:D

I talked with Payson Dave about it one day at the track and am pretty sure as long as you can show part ownership of any horse and are willing to pony up the money for the license (like $200) you can get one.

Kasept 09-11-2007 08:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pmacdaddy
Few quick questions for anyone familiar with NYS Licensing.

Interesting conversation with my wife last night regarding the potential Dee Tee - NYB. After telling her about NYB deal, her response was - "Why don't you get your NY license in case you decide to get involved in a horse on your own, or with a higher ownership percentage?".

After asking her who she was and what she did with my wife... I proceeded to do some research. Few questions:

1). Do you need to have current ownership over 3% to get licensed? Or can a prospective owner get licensed.

2) If you need ownership to be licensed, could an owner with under 3% choose to get licensed?

3) Can you get fingerprinting done at Belmont Racing office.

4) What the heck is the new Workers Comp affadavit? Does this apply to owner applications.

The State website is about as clear as mud... Any guidance would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Pat
Pat:

1.) You can get licensed with less than 4% stake...

2.) So, yes...

3.) Yes... Not the racing office but at the NYSRWB office on the grounsd floor in the grandstand, followed by getting a NYRA badge in the credential office upstairs in the Clubhouse...

4.) You're covered already by our run(s) at Saratoga and the $600 insurance fee paid for 2007...

pmacdaddy 09-11-2007 08:51 AM
Thanks for quick replies.

Guess I will start the process and see how it goes.

Thanks!

Ronnie 09-11-2007 12:03 PM
Seems like a no brainer then if you get free admission and free parking at any NY track for $200 a year?

SniperSB23 09-11-2007 12:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronnie
Seems like a no brainer then if you get free admission and free parking at any NY track for $200 a year?
I think that is just the first year cause they charge you for fingerprinting. After that the cost goes down. I am probably going to do it next year. Not much reason not to.

Payson Dave 09-11-2007 12:29 PM
Tried to answer in blue below

Quote:
Originally Posted by pmacdaddy
Few quick questions for anyone familiar with NYS Licensing.

Interesting conversation with my wife last night regarding the potential Dee Tee - NYB. After telling her about NYB deal, her response was - "Why don't you get your NY license in case you decide to get involved in a horse on your own, or with a higher ownership percentage?".

After asking her who she was and what she did with my wife... I proceeded to do some research. Few questions:

1). Do you need to have current ownership over 3% to get licensed? Or can a prospective owner get licensed. You need to list some percentage ownership...2% will work...3% or more will get you a parking pass also.

2) If you need ownership to be licensed, could an owner with under 3% choose to get licensed? Yes

3) Can you get fingerprinting done at Belmont Racing office. Yes

4) What the heck is the new Workers Comp affadavit? Does this apply to owner applications. Not That I know of

The State website is about as clear as mud... Any guidance would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Pat

Ronnie 09-11-2007 12:34 PM
So you would need two shares of one horse in Dee Tee Stables, at least for #2, to qualify for the parking pass?

Payson Dave 09-11-2007 12:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronnie
So you would need two shares of one horse in Dee Tee Stables, at least for #2, to qualify for the parking pass?
When I got licenced in July at Saratoga, they told me that partial ownership in a couple of horses or at least 3% in just one would get you the parking stickers

pmacdaddy 09-11-2007 12:43 PM
Looks like renewal fee is $50 for owners after $200 initial registration.

Per the State Gaming site. The Worker's Comp affadavit is a new requiremenbt effective 9/9/07. I am going to call them up to get a full understanding of exactly what they need in that regard.

Rudeboyelvis 09-11-2007 12:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronnie
So you would need two shares of one horse in Dee Tee Stables, at least for #2, to qualify for the parking pass?
I have a NY owners license and have always just flashed it to the lot attendant (owners lot) for admittance - I've never needed a parking pass..from out of state so I can only vouch for Aqueduct and Saratoga...don't know if the rules are different at BEL...

I went through the National Racing Compact as I'm licensed in WV and here in FL as well. I'd recommend them highly, you can extend the NY license to 3 years for an additional 75.00

Ronnie 09-11-2007 12:55 PM
My father-in-law has two parking passes given to him with his license but he has 15 percent ownership and I always thought that was the minimum. Plus he loves getting the cheap eats and beer along the backside of the track. Thanks!

pmacdaddy 09-11-2007 02:00 PM
FYI - I spoke to Racing Board and the new Worker's Comp requirement (#5 in instructions) pertains only to Trainers. Owner applicants can disregard that section.

ddthetide 09-11-2007 04:20 PM
is there 1 License that would cover all the states that Dee Tee Stables would run? or is it individual by state?

pgiaco 09-11-2007 06:06 PM
The National Racing Compact covers alot of ground. I have a New York License, but got a National License later to cover NJ, KY, DEL and FLA. It gets a little pricey, but you cant beat the convenience once you have been fingerprinted.

Ronnie 09-11-2007 10:08 PM
Do I really want to be fingerprinted?


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