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Bogey 08-24-2007 10:26 PM

SAT - Travers Day PK4
 
Saratoga - Races 7 - 9 on ESPN 4:00p - 6:00p eastern

R7 - G2 Bernard Baruch

#6 Cosmonaut - He might be lone speed and long gone, but it just seems to simple. I expect some company on the front end. Logical choice.

#9 Silver Whistle - Ran his best race 3rd off a layoff in last year's G1 Sword Dancer and he's doing the same here. J/T (Desormeaux / Mott) have been on fire this meet.

#1 Shakis (Ire) - Had tough trip in the Bowling Green as the favorite chasing lone speed Sunriver. His 1st two U.S. starts put him in the mix.

#11 Ballast (Ire) - He's also making his 3rd start off the bench and he's not shy of the camera.

#3 Drum Major - Making third start of the year after finishing a nice 2nd in G2. Capable at a price.

R8 - G1 King's Bishop

#9 FIRST DEFENCE - Made short work of the competition in the Long Branch at Monmouth Park and cuts back to a sprint. Frankel lethal 2nd off a long break and Route to Sprint. Expecting a huge effort versus a quality field.

#3 Hard Spun - More than respectable in the Triple Crown Series and 7/8ths looks to hit him square between the eyes. Short price.

#11 King of the Roxy - One turn specialist? 2X Graded winner going one turn.

#7 Teuflesberg - Talented runner was unsuccessful going two turns, but is 2 for 2 at the distance. Trainer needs a win.

#1 E Z Warrior - Should bounce back after disappointing effort versus elders in G2 Bing Crosby at Del Mar (Poly). He's won 1st three career starts from #1 post position.

R9 - G1 Travers

#4 Street Sense - Derby and 2yr old champ towers over this company.

#7 Sightseeing - Should complete the exacta.

#5 Grasshopper - Coming off huge effort and picks up old friend Robby.

R10 - G3 Victory Ride

#6 Allude - Looks to pick up some of the speedsters late. Also, looking to turn the tables on Featherbed after stumbling in last.

#10 Featherbed - Pletcher runner is 2 for 3 at the Spa and 3 for 4 at the distance. Johnny V might not want to get into a speed duel.

#8 La Traviata - $1.1 million purchase has done nothing wrong in two starts and just missed track record at Monmouth in last. Big step up here.

#7 Time's Mistress - Would need a better effort than her upset win on Preakness day.

PK4 - 1 3 6 9 11 with 1 3 7 9 11 with 4 with 6 10 = $50

Good Racing Luck

Joerulesthespa 08-24-2007 11:23 PM

i have been looking at this pick 4 for a few days now and i feel very strong about my ticket... here it is.....

Bernard Baruch H. (G2)-
1 Shakis (IRE), 3 Drum Major, 4 Linda's Lad (GB), 6 Cosmonaut, 9 Silver Whistle

King's Bishop S. (G1)-
1 E Z Warrior, 3 Hard Spun,4 Pauillac,7 Teuflesberg,8 Most Distinguished, 9 First Defence

Travers S. (G1)-
4 Street Sense

Victory Ride S. (G3)-
8 La Traviata

I think the first 2 races of the sequence are as wide open as they get, i always look for a price and i'd love to beat the favorites in the travers and in the victory ride but i think street sense, and la traviata are close to unbeatable, i looked over the races for a long time and put different tickets together and tried coming up with ways to beat them and i cant.

As far as the first 2 races they are wide open and i think i will catch a price in both of them, i use the obvious choices, but i think the most likely winner of the Bernard Baruch H. is either drum major or silver whistle and they will both be solid prices... and in the King's Bishop S. i also you the obvious choices, but once again i think the most likely winner is either e z warrior or first defence and they should also both be decent prices...

good luck everyone.

robfla 08-25-2007 12:07 AM

Race 7 - Gun Salute has the back numbers to win, and at 12-1 I can assure you he will be on my tickets. His last race indicates he may be back to his old self and Mott/ Cornie combo at 12-1 is too good not to use.

Bogey 08-25-2007 04:11 PM

They might of came home in over 13 seconds, but that was one heck of a race in the G1 King's Bishop. That was pure grit displayed by Hard Spun to beat my top selection on the card (First Defence). FD ran a big one, but the seasoning might have cost him. When Frankel doesn't scratch in spots like this, he's more than dangerous.

Scav 08-25-2007 04:20 PM

While I agree about the impressiveness, I think it was more Hard Spun finally switching leads and Pino going to the left hand, which is exactly when he took off. The track is cooked there today.

Inside is golden today also, the always mess with the track on these big days, drives me nuts

Bogey 08-25-2007 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
While I agree about the impressiveness, I think it was more Hard Spun finally switching leads and Pino going to the left hand, which is exactly when he took off. The track is cooked there today.

Inside is golden today also, the always mess with the track on these big days, drives me nuts

No doubt about your assessment. It's a totally different track on these days, I especially remember the 2005 Derby Day when the rail was dead and cost Madcape Escapade and Afleet Alex IMO. It definitely pays to pay attention to the earlier races. Also, if you have a Steve Byk at the Breeders' Cup telling every DT'er that they shaved the inside and it's where you want to be never hurts.

herkhorse 08-25-2007 09:25 PM

[quote=Scav]While I agree about the impressiveness, I think it was more Hard Spun finally switching leads and Pino going to the left hand, which is exactly when he took off.
You're right Scav, He switched leads, Pino worked the left hand, and he found a new gear.


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