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AeWingnut 08-18-2007 10:21 AM

Saratoga works Handily
 
I'm used to seeing H for Handily noted for California racing but everywhere else they almost always are breezing works. Now Saratoga works are coming back with Handily.

Sorry to say I don't really know the difference. Seems like horses with Handily works don't do as well as horses that breeze.

Handily times are almost always faster than breezing times but the explanations I have heard suggest that the horse is not being asked in Handily works. it has to be backwards.

I think Handily works right before a race suck. The horse is a toss.

hockey2315 08-18-2007 10:52 AM

I think you have it backwards. Handily works are when the horse is asked for more speed. There's nothing wrong with seeing a short handily workout a few days before a race. It usually means the trainer means business. . .

AeWingnut 08-18-2007 03:21 PM

they only ask for speed at Saratoga and California tracks?
I may have it backwards on H works right before a race
but I have been paying attention to work ou patterns for as long as I have been playing.

hockey2315 08-18-2007 11:59 PM

I opened up an old DRF lying around and found some "H" works from Calder and Monmouth as well. . .

Rudeboyelvis 08-19-2007 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockey2315
I think you have it backwards. Handily works are when the horse is asked for more speed. There's nothing wrong with seeing a short handily workout a few days before a race. It usually means the trainer means business. . .

Nope. Breezing is when they really try to tighten a horse before a race by working it fast. Handily means exactly that - "In Hand"...no whip.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...2/ai_n13871362

Payson Dave 08-19-2007 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis
Nope. Breezing is when they really try to tighten a horse before a race by working it fast. Handily means exactly that - "In Hand"...no whip.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...2/ai_n13871362

I don't agree....I may be wrong but IMHO Breezing is when the horse is not really being asked...bascically doing it on his/her own...Handily is when the horse is under strong urging from the rider....

Perhaps Cannon Shell will jump in here with his thoughts.

AeWingnut 08-19-2007 07:49 AM

I don't pay any attention to Calder or Monmouth. so you got me there.

Read the explanation the link provided. That's what I've heard before but Handily times are almost always faster.

I liked reading the free clocker's reports on BrisNET. They told you what was happening.

packerbacker7964 08-19-2007 07:54 AM

Breezing means he was being asked to do more. Hand means just what it says In Hand not being asked to do anything not within itself.

Payson Dave 08-19-2007 08:12 AM

Handily vs In Hand.....not the same

ironprospect 08-19-2007 08:40 AM

Breezing
 
is when a horse is working without being asked

Handily is when a horse is asked for more in a work, really urged.

sorry but it seems a lot of you are misinformed

Danzig 08-19-2007 08:43 AM

i do believe breezing means with ease, handily with some urging....yeah, what iron said! you know breezing--it was a breeze meaning easy.

speaking of what things mean...anyone know where 'furlong' came from??


One eighth of a mile. Originally a "furrow long" or the length of a plowed field.

packerbacker7964 08-19-2007 09:56 AM

I stand corrected. www.gamingtoday.com/Glossary/horses.cfm/

PeteMugg 08-19-2007 10:33 AM

Today at Saratoga the workouts show a mix of Breezing and Handily works, a few of each from the gate. Seems like useful info.

But at Delmar they all show Handily works, a couple from the gate. Is that to say every trainer wanted some urging from the rider? Doesn't seem likely.

Riot 08-19-2007 10:57 AM

DRF form notes defines "handily" as "moderate speed, but more speed than 'breezing' ".

Against what they sound like they mean to my ears!

Riot 08-19-2007 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeteMugg
Today at Saratoga the workouts show a mix of Breezing and Handily works, a few of each from the gate. Seems like useful info.

But at Delmar they all show Handily works, a couple from the gate. Is that to say every trainer wanted some urging from the rider? Doesn't seem likely.

It may make sense when you consider the polytrack - they want the horses fit over it. Just guessing.

Riot 08-19-2007 11:08 AM

Racing trivia ...

What racing journalist first coined the use of the term breezing, by describing a certain famous horse running in his workout, "and the trees swayed" (as he was running past?) as he was so fast?

Who was the writer, and who was the horse? :)

Bonus points for the track where the workout took place!

PeteMugg 08-19-2007 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot
It may make sense when you consider the polytrack - they want the horses fit over it. Just guessing.

But it's the same at Bay Meadows(dirt). I just don't think they show much distinction in the works in Cali.

Danzig 08-19-2007 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot
Racing trivia ...

What racing journalist first coined the use of the term breezing, by describing a certain famous horse running in his workout, "and the trees swayed" (as he was running past?) as he was so fast?

Who was the writer, and who was the horse? :)

Bonus points for the track where the workout took place!

raise a native

hatton

belmont park

Riot 08-19-2007 08:21 PM

A winner in the History of the Turf contest! :)

Well done!


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