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Indian Charlie 07-31-2007 03:24 AM

nobiz like SLowbiz going monday on turf!!
 
Everyones former favorite horse from this 3yo crop, slobiz, is trying turf monday in a gr 2 at saratoga.

will he be able to duplicate his slo-ness on turf, that is what i want to know!

TheSpyder 07-31-2007 05:00 AM

He's a good horse and if he develops I think he's be a great one.

Spyder

ddthetide 07-31-2007 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSpyder
He's a good horse and if he develops I think he's be a great one.

Spyder

i liked this horse. hopefully as he matures, he won't be such a headcase.

Benevolus 07-31-2007 05:48 PM

He is not that fast of a horse. Doesn't look like he ever will be. He belongs in races like the West Virginia Derby with the horses the DRF calls the "B team".

The Bid 08-01-2007 07:49 AM

Hes an Albert the Great, everyone can relax on him being a good horse.

dellinger63 08-01-2007 10:07 AM

He was a standout (visually) on the OK Track when Sumwon jogged......

horseofcourse 08-01-2007 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
Hes an Albert the Great, everyone can relax on him being a good horse.

on the board in 6 graded stakes including 2 grade 1s, 3 grade 2s and 1 grade 3 with wins in a grade1, grade2, and grade3. I'll go ahead and call him a good horse even if he is slow and an Albert the Great. 7 of his 8 lifetime races have been in graded stakes. I'm an easy grader I guess. But he is without question a good horse.

ArlJim78 08-06-2007 04:52 PM

Albert The Great would be proud.
 
NoBiz wins a GR2 in his first ever turf start despite racing 2-3 wide on both turns.

Getaway 08-06-2007 05:16 PM

Nobiz ran a great race..and he is without a doubt a good horse, but if Marcavelly had a clean trip, he would have won by at least 2. He had to check real bad, then came on strong.

GPK 08-06-2007 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Getaway
Nobiz ran a great race..and he is without a doubt a good horse, but if Marcavelly had a clean trip, he would have won by at least 2. He had to check real bad, then came on strong.

Clearly was moving best of them all at the end. Was shut off, checked and re-rallied very well. I love the way he looks.

Not the best ride Prado has ever given.

Danzig 08-06-2007 05:52 PM

perhaps the 'slow' part needs to move to another horses name....slow's tizzy perhaps??

ArlJim78 08-06-2007 06:00 PM

if those two raced back against each other, I'd take NoBiz again.
the bad trip of Marcavelly seems over blown to me. saved ground on both turns and was for a moment blocked. NoBiz got kicked out on the first turn and lost significant ground. also for the simple fact that NoBiz is a faster horse than Marcavelly.

letswastemoney 08-06-2007 06:16 PM

Nobiz won...I'm guessing it was another same 98 or 99 beyer though :p

miraja2 08-06-2007 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
Hes an Albert the Great, everyone can relax on him being a good horse.

I can't help but notice that you have been repeating this same comment almost every single time the subject of Nobiz has ever been brought up. Why is that?
We all know that Albert the Great has not exactly been knocking them out of the park in the breeding shed, but he was a very good horse on the track (5-time graded stakes winner) who had a very nice 4yo campaign. I don't see why you seem to think that it would be impossible for him to sire a good horse.
Given that Nobiz is a G1 winner that has now shown ability on multiple surfaces. I think you would have to say that he is a good horse. Not great, but certainly good.

MisterB 08-06-2007 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
I can't help but notice that you have been repeating this same comment almost every single time the subject of Nobiz has ever been brought up. Why is that?
We all know that Albert the Great has not exactly been knocking them out of the park in the breeding shed, but he was a very good horse on the track (5-time graded stakes winner) who had a very nice 4yo campaign. I don't see why you seem to think that it would be impossible for him to sire a good horse.
Given that Nobiz is a G1 winner that has now shown ability on multiple surfaces. I think you would have to say that he is a good horse. Not great, but certainly good.

Yes indeed this is good news

Philip 08-06-2007 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
perhaps the 'slow' part needs to move to another horses name....slow's tizzy perhaps??

Slew's Tizzy displaced. Its pretty hard to run when your air gets shut off.

Danzig 08-06-2007 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Philip
Slew's Tizzy displaced. Its pretty hard to run when your air gets shut off.

that's true. but that doesn't explain all his losses. but i'd make more of an argument for his name being slow than nobiz!

Philip 08-06-2007 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
that's true. but that doesn't explain all his losses. but i'd make more of an argument for his name being slow than nobiz!

Its happened to him the last two races. All his losses?

Coach Pants 08-06-2007 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
that's true. but that doesn't explain all his losses. but i'd make more of an argument for his name being slow than nobiz!

And I'd argue that the hype NoBiz recieved early in his career is the reason why people pay more attention to his performances than Slew's Tizzy and that is the reason why he is given nicknames.

Indian Charlie 08-06-2007 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
And I'd argue that the hype NoBiz recieved early in his career is the reason why people pay more attention to his performances than Slew's Tizzy and that is the reason why he is given nicknames.

that pretty well summarizes it.

i remain unimpressed after today's race.

i think my new nickname for him will be nohype like slowhype.


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