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dellinger63 07-07-2007 09:13 AM

Chris Block / amazing stat
 
OK I'll admit it, I was always a huge fan of his. Going over Arlington's 2nd half of the card today and I come across a 1rster trained by Block and owned by Mr. D, Arlington's owner. I look down and find Block is winning at a 43% rate first time out and it's a sample of 28. 12 1rsters winning out of 28 is unbelievable.

hoovesupsideyourhead 07-07-2007 09:24 AM

team block,,,gotta love it

Scav 07-07-2007 09:29 AM

Quick story
 
About 4 weeks ago I was in Mr. D's with my dad. My dad had just left and i was there betting the late DD at Arlington and Hollywood. After one Arlington race, one of the most prominent 'investors' on the grounds throws a fit calling out Block and being a cheater and how Illinois needs drug testing.

Now, I am not saying either way, and his first out number is hard to argue with as far as 'cheating' (I think alot of that has to do with the family structure and the old man breaking all his horses) but something to think about it.

Still think he is a douche bag for running "his best horse ever and part of my family" for a 25k tag

dellinger63 07-07-2007 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
About 4 weeks ago I was in Mr. D's with my dad. My dad had just left and i was there betting the late DD at Arlington and Hollywood. After one Arlington race, one of the most prominent 'investors' on the grounds throws a fit calling out Block and being a cheater and how Illinois needs drug testing.

Now, I am not saying either way, and his first out number is hard to argue with as far as 'cheating' (I think alot of that has to do with the family structure and the old man breaking all his horses) but something to think about it.

Still think he is a douche bag for running "his best horse ever and part of my family" for a 25k tag

OMG cause some guy who lost a bet yells cheater you believe it? Every single winner Block had was tested and was clean. It couldn't be that Block is one of the best on the grounds could it?

AeWingnut 07-07-2007 09:45 AM

Chris Block is killer on the turf.

I usually know when he has a runner in when the family shows up to invest

AeWingnut 07-07-2007 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
About 4 weeks ago I was in Mr. D's with my dad. My dad had just left and i was there betting the late DD at Arlington and Hollywood. After one Arlington race, one of the most prominent 'investors' on the grounds throws a fit calling out Block and being a cheater and how Illinois needs drug testing.

Now, I am not saying either way, and his first out number is hard to argue with as far as 'cheating' (I think alot of that has to do with the family structure and the old man breaking all his horses) but something to think about it.

Still think he is a douche bag for running "his best horse ever and part of my family" for a 25k tag

What do you mean? he put your horse in for a tag? Did you lose the horse?

Scav 07-07-2007 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
OMG cause some guy who lost a bet yells cheater you believe it? Every single winner Block had was tested and was clean. It couldn't be that Block is one of the best on the grounds could it?

He is a good trainer, he gets the best bred Illinois breds becuase he spends the money and has a great operation behind him, but I am just saying that is is plausible.

Hell, I have made a ton of money on him so I don't care either way, but some of his numbers are off the wall scary.

jwkniska 07-07-2007 10:03 AM

Anyone that tosses a Block, Mr. D horse at Arlington is playing with fire... unless they're running against a Catalano/Calabrese/Douglas horse.

Block's better either on turf or with firsters. Don't like him as much for dirt/polytrack routes, but always is viable on turf.

Scav 07-07-2007 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut
What do you mean? he put your horse in for a tag? Did you lose the horse?

He put Mystery Giver in for a 25k claim tag after bowing a tendon in the Million back in either 04 or 05. About 3 weeks after Million Day, he stated that this horse was part of his family and would do everything to get him healthy and yadda yadda. And then he gets him healthy, and then puts him in 25k claimers at Hawthorne.

Speaking of, I haven't seen MG all meet, did they finally retire him Dell?

Scav 07-07-2007 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by jwkniska
Anyone that tosses a Block, Mr. D horse at Arlington is playing with fire... unless they're running against a Catalano/Calabrese/Douglas horse.

Block's better either on turf or with firsters. Don't like him as much for dirt/polytrack routes, but always is viable on turf.

Fort Prado had a real shot to win the Hashin until he ran into traffic trouble. He was cruising

Danzig 07-07-2007 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
He put Mystery Giver in for a 25k claim tag after bowing a tendon in the Million back in either 04 or 05. About 3 weeks after Million Day, he stated that this horse was part of his family and would do everything to get him healthy and yadda yadda. And then he gets him healthy, and then puts him in 25k claimers at Hawthorne.

Speaking of, I haven't seen MG all meet, did they finally retire him Dell?

well, as a member of the family, certainly mystery giver would want to contribute to help out the rest of the family!

dellinger63 07-07-2007 10:17 AM

I'm not sure where Mystery Giver is. If I see him I'll ask. I think he is in for a very good day today. The heat is gonna be brutal though. I'll be out there by the first.

AeWingnut 07-07-2007 11:11 AM

pretty low sticking Mystery Giver in a $25k claimer

maybe he just wanted to make sure he was done?

SentToStud 07-09-2007 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
About 4 weeks ago I was in Mr. D's with my dad. My dad had just left and i was there betting the late DD at Arlington and Hollywood. After one Arlington race, one of the most prominent 'investors' on the grounds throws a fit calling out Block and being a cheater and how Illinois needs drug testing.
Now, I am not saying either way, and his first out number is hard to argue with as far as 'cheating' (I think alot of that has to do with the family structure and the old man breaking all his horses) but something to think about it.

Still think he is a douche bag for running "his best horse ever and part of my family" for a 25k tag

Is that 2nd floor east end? If so, sounds like part of the Roger V. crew I remember from 5-10 yrs ago. Never saw people that embodied group misery with the depth and desperation of that bunch. For that alone, they have my admiration.

Scav 07-09-2007 10:25 AM

In the Gold Room. The guy is unbelievable with picking long shots, especially at Northern California

JDank34 07-09-2007 08:18 PM

Easily the best horse Block ever had was VACARE.........no question

Scav 07-09-2007 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JDank34
Easily the best horse Block ever had was VACARE.........no question

YES. I wonder if he sells the horse if she was a homebred. Block's foundation is as strong as anyone in this business. They have farms in Ocala where they break their babies and yearlings, which if I am not mistaken, is what he dad does. His runners are AS PREPARED as Pletchers and Asmussen's horses first that.

FGFan 07-10-2007 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
He put Mystery Giver in for a 25k claim tag after bowing a tendon in the Million back in either 04 or 05. About 3 weeks after Million Day, he stated that this horse was part of his family and would do everything to get him healthy and yadda yadda. And then he gets him healthy, and then puts him in 25k claimers at Hawthorne.

Speaking of, I haven't seen MG all meet, did they finally retire him Dell?


Oh Mystery Giver, I LOVE him. MG ran several races at Fairgrounds this year. He was beaten the last day by Candid Glen, older by a year I think, and CGlen was just retired.
Is Mystery Giver retired, updates please.
I was glad to see Fort Prado hold on by a whisker this weekend, I like him too.


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