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Seattleallstar 05-19-2007 11:23 PM

Who Street Sense really needed?
 
if Pat Day were still around we would be on the verge of having our TC winner since the BID

The Indomitable DrugS 05-19-2007 11:31 PM

If Pat Day rode him in the Derby....Hard Spun probably would have won.

Coach Pants 05-19-2007 11:33 PM

He would've been a play against in the Belmont. You could see the wheels coming off.

hi_im_god 05-19-2007 11:34 PM

"Who Street Sense really needed"

liquidity.

King Glorious 05-19-2007 11:38 PM

Eddie Delahoussaye.

hi_im_god 05-19-2007 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar
if Pat Day were still around we would be on the verge of having our TC winner since the BID

street sense could have gotten a pin in his hoof before the belmont. or his jock might have made a premature move. doubt he could have replicated bid's triple crown win.

The Indomitable DrugS 05-19-2007 11:47 PM

I hear ya DaHoss.

Calvin rode a great race in the Derby---no one could argue against that. Who's to say Day doesn't fearlessly skate up the rail?

He also gave his horse a pretty good trip today...he did nothing wrong.

Day couldn't win the first two legs on Easy Goer....who's to say he'd have won them both with SS?

DaTruth 05-19-2007 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious
Eddie Delahoussaye.

I notice that you list Java Gold as one of the best horses since 1986. I'm not sure if I agree with that, but at any rate, Java Gold was the best of a very strong 1987 3yo class.

That was quite a ride by Pat Day aboard him in the 1987 JC Gold Cup. Letting Creme Fraiche pull a wire job. That was almost as bad as his rides aboard Sky Classic in the BC Turf and Arlington Million.

King Glorious 05-20-2007 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DaTruth
I notice that you list Java Gold as one of the best horses since 1986. I'm not sure if I agree with that, but at any rate, Java Gold was the best of a very strong 1987 3yo class.

That was quite a ride by Pat Day aboard him in the 1987 JC Gold Cup. Letting Creme Fraiche pull a wire job. That was almost as bad as his rides aboard Sky Classic in the BC Turf and Arlington Million.

While I was extremely disappointed in that JCGC loss, it wasn't as bad as it seemed. I wish Day had ridden the race different but losing to Creme Fraiche wasn't a disgrace. Creme Fraiche was a seven-time grade one winner in his career and obviously excelled running in 12f dirt races, being a Belmont Stakes winner in addition to winning back to back runnings of the JCGC.

fpsoxfan 05-20-2007 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
DrugS your insight and logic is lost in this thread. Let's just move along.

And Again

disappearingdan_akaplaya 05-20-2007 08:49 AM

no denying what day accomplished during his career but as others have noted there were some awful rides near the end. his ride on perfect drift in the HGC foolishly going outside to chase a pace on perfect drift when he coulda just sat on the rail behind 2 dueling horses, end result greta wins the race on freefour. i also thought his ride in the belmont on TMW was awful getting caught wide in the compac field, believe it woulda been a much closer finish if not different result

hoovesupsideyourhead 05-20-2007 08:58 AM

maybee he should have been on your tout c q then he would have finished by now

DaTruth 05-20-2007 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious
While I was extremely disappointed in that JCGC loss, it wasn't as bad as it seemed. I wish Day had ridden the race different but losing to Creme Fraiche wasn't a disgrace. Creme Fraiche was a seven-time grade one winner in his career and obviously excelled running in 12f dirt races, being a Belmont Stakes winner in addition to winning back to back runnings of the JCGC.

Creme Fraiche was very nice closer who you didn't expect to see on the lead in a dirt race. I remember betting him in the Louisiana Derby and watching his furious rally just fall short to Violado. In the Jersey Derby, when Spend a Buck was poised to win that huge bonus, Creme Fraiche must have put some serious fear in the connections of Spend a Bunk with that big move along the rail in the stretch.


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