my derby bomb,,for under exotics...
 

bwana bull, if you toss out his bad attempt at sa hes easy the most undervalued exotic player imo..like his style and hollendorfer is a solid conditioner..dont like the cut on his hind but that wont stop me from tossing him in plays. at a big number.......

I'll be damned.

I wouldn't have seen that coming.

rock on

Thx Hooves

Hooves.....
 

Bro, as soon as i found out he was in i asked on here if this was one horse that could fill that super at a huge number. Opinions varied, but i feel like he could run on late, and really blow up the exotics. For all the reasons you've listed, i agree.

don't forget your favs from 3 months ago
 

ok i don't know anything, but BB looked visually awesome entering the winner's circle after the El Camino Real. Sitting on the east coast and watching this is not the same as being there but really this horse looked better than they were saying - which is unusual for TVG. LOL!

I feel like I am following the pack and falling in love with these new wise guy horses when the ones from 3 or 4 months ago will do what they did last time - win, place or show! good luck. thanks hooves.

It's hard for me to judge this horse.
What he faced in Northern California was ridiculously bad, and his one attempt against a (somewhat) good field was piss poor.
The horse can move, but I just can't see including him anywhere but the very bottom of the super on 1 or 2 small tickets.

put down the joint

I'm probably the biggest Northern California racing fan here and I don't like Bwana Bull to crack the superfecta. I believe he's in the Derby for the wrong reasons and I think his trainer thinks so too. Read "between the lines" in these Hollendorfer quotes:

Regarding BB's Beyer figures (his career best is just a 91 - earned last time out): "That certainly does concern me," Hollendorfer said. "I look at numbers."

On why he chose the Santa Anita Derby (where BB finished 5th, 5 1/4 back):
"I analyzed all the [Derby prep] races," Hollendorfer said. "There are tough horses at every venue. We might as well be relatively close to home."

Bwana Bull needs to run well Saturday (at the Santa Anita Derby) to continue on the Derby trail, Hollendorfer said. "I think we have to find out if he stands up to the type of competition he'll meet [in Kentucky]," Hollendorfer said.

From the San Francisco Chronicle on Monday:
Jerry Hollendorfer... indicated the decision to try the Kentucky Derby was made by Jelladian and the other owners, Mark DeDomenico and George Todaro. "In this case, I don't own a piece of the horse," Hollendorfer said.... "(Bwana Bull) is qualified to run in the Derby (meaning he has enough graded stakes earnings to make the field of 20), and it's unfortunate the other race (the Derby Trial) didn't work out. But they (the owners) figure the horse is back there so we might as well give it a shot."

Does this sound like a trainer who thinks his horse should be running in the Derby? I don't, and that's why Bwana Bull is a toss for me.

Just my two cents

i think he beats alot of horses here.just think after the top 4/5 its wide open..hes my pick..good or bad

damn , that's a huge shocker of a longshot. I was thinking Zanjero but Bwana Bull... that is huge

personally i'd go for a different bomb, looks like a complete toss with no chance to me. couldn't get in the super in a weak SA derby, how will he manage to get in the derby super? two horses that beat him that day are in here. for speed the only horse i have ranked worse is Storminmay.
he'll be a bomb for sure and rightfully so.

my derby bomb
 

Zanjero, after watching him at Keeneland

Agree with Zanjero if the race sets up pace wise, but no way will Bwanna Bull take a penny of my money. He's on my short list of absolute tosses. Now if I can just knock 14 more like him off, I'll have a super wheel I can manage

I've opted against wagering exotics in the race because of a short cash supply, so I'm sticking with the multi-race wagers and a win bet on street sense.

But if the price is right, while it might be stupid, I still feel like Cowtown Cat might be better than he's getting credit for.

Not to rain on your parade, but you are tossing out his poor effort at SA, that was his career best number!?!?

Trifecta:

ALL/ Sam P. /ALL

THis should pay out huge.

pp 11..ridden by javy castillano...

Good longshot as any...will use him in the 3rd & 4th slots
other tri and super "makers" -
Cowtown Cat, Tiago, Sam P. & Zanjero...
but, Bwana Bull...will be the longest!

I know all the Kent D. fans in here will love me for this, but I will be using Stormello in some exotics.

Please go easy on me for this one..it's just a hunch.

I still think he'll lead the way...