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bmont22 04-11-2007 02:34 PM

Polytrack for this weekend.
 
Are there any tendencies with polytrack when it is raining, even though it is an all weather track? This weekend is setting up to be an awful one in Lexington - cold and rainy.
Any specific bias develop? Speed usually reigns supreme in the mud, but this is a whole different story.
Any idea?

whodey17 04-11-2007 03:14 PM

With the small amount of information we have, it appears that the winners are coming from way back in the pack to win. Julian is on fire. Avoid speed at all costs.

Cajungator26 04-11-2007 03:29 PM

1st race - Keeneland - April 11, 2007

Off at: 1:15 Race Type: Maiden Special Weight
Age Restriction: Four Year Old and Upward
Sex Restriction: Fillies and Mares
Value of Race: $44,900
Distance: One And One Sixteenth Miles
Surface Type: All Weather Track Track Condition: Fast
Winning Time: 1:46.48

Pgm Horse Jockey Win Place Show
1 Cambridge Belle Rafael Bejarano 8.00 4.60 4.20
8 Shine Like the Sun James Graham 7.20 5.00
5 Artistic Escape Hector L. Rosario, Jr. 8.40
Also ran: 4 - Le Peaks , 6 - Biblical Point , 3 - Sarah Supreme , 2 - Moneypenny , 7 - Neon Lipstick
Scratched horses: Succeed , More to Prove

Wager Type Winning Numbers Payoff

$2 Exacta 1-8 60.00
$2 Superfecta 1-8-5-4 4,960.40
$2 Trifecta 1-8-5 521.80
Winning Breeder: William Diamant
Winning Owner: G. Watts Humphrey, Jr.
Winning Trainer: Vicki Oliver

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2nd race - Keeneland - April 11, 2007

Off at: 1:45 Race Type: Claiming
Age Restriction: Four Year Old and Upward
Value of Race: $22,000
Distance: One And One Eighth Miles
Surface Type: All Weather Track Track Condition: Fast
Winning Time: 1:54.24

Pgm Horse Jockey Win Place Show
7 Coping Corey J. Lanerie 11.60 5.00 3.80
1 A Nice Splash Shaun Bridgmohan 2.80 2.20
8 Quick Pay Alonso Quinonez 4.20
Also ran: 2 - Maketalino , 3 - Cosmo , 1A - Clever Dude , 5 - Swerve
Scratched horses: Silverado Trail , Prophet John

Wager Type Winning Numbers Payoff

$2 Daily Double 1-7 54.20
$2 Exacta 7-1 31.80
$2 Superfecta 7-1-8-2 827.00
$2 Trifecta 7-1-8 281.20
Winning Breeder: Crowns Way & Peter Stamas
Winning Owner: Heflin, Sandy and Jerry
Winning Trainer: Cody Autrey

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3rd race - Keeneland - April 11, 2007

Off at: 2:16 Race Type: Maiden Special Weight
Age Restriction: Three Year Old
Value of Race: $50,000
Distance: Seven Furlongs
Surface Type: All Weather Track Track Condition: Fast
Winning Time: 1:23.53

Pgm Horse Jockey Win Place Show
12 Firerock Base Robby Albarado 11.60 5.40 3.80
6 Cool Mountain Garrett K. Gomez 8.00 6.40
5 Slate Mark Guidry 8.60
Also ran: 1 - Vicarian , 4 - Manhasset Indian , 11 - El Romeo , 8 - Caymus Capote , 9 - Chimney Stone , 2 - San Geronimo , 3 - Del Castillo Diaz
Scratched horses: Red Sand Beach , Sunday Whiskey

Wager Type Winning Numbers Payoff

$2 Pick 3 1-7-12 (3 correct) 267.60
$2 Exacta 12-6 57.80
$2 Superfecta 12-6-5-1 3,064.80
$2 Trifecta 12-6-5 938.40
Winning Breeder: Hedgewood Farm, Hiram Nuckols & Thomas Saafeld
Winning Owner: Dream Walkin Farms, Inc. Toby Covel, et al.
Winning Trainer: Bobby C. Barnett

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saucon17 04-11-2007 03:32 PM

I hope they revert to the track conditions they had on the first two
days. At least that track was a lot more honest than it is today.

Early Speed = No Chance Today

cakes44 04-11-2007 03:37 PM

1:54 and change isn't good for 1 1/8 miles?

Cajungator26 04-11-2007 03:38 PM

5th race - Keeneland - April 11, 2007

Off at: 3:16 Race Type: Maiden Special Weight
Age Restriction: Three Year Old
Sex Restriction: Fillies
Value of Race: $50,000
Distance: One And One Sixteenth Miles
Surface Type: All Weather Track Track Condition: Fast
Winning Time: 1:44.73

Pgm Horse Jockey Win Place Show
9 Sun Sheika Julien R. Leparoux 24.80 10.00 8.40
12 Barbie Doll Type Miguel Mena 13.20 12.00
6 Indescribable Rafael Bejarano 16.00
Also ran: 3 - Matchless Moment , 11 - Imagistic , 1 - Forever Red , 4 - Sarah's Prize , 7 - New York Dixie , 2 - Tabatodo , 8 - Crimson Whisper , 10 - Rise N Go , 5 - Mane Chance

Wager Type Winning Numbers Payoff

$2 Pick 3 12-3-9 (3 correct) 588.60
$1 Pick 4 7-12-3-9 (4 correct) 2,262.60
$2 Exacta 9-12 295.80
$2 Superfecta 9-12-6-3 63,259.20
$2 Trifecta 9-12-6 7,383.00
Winning Breeder: Tavner B. Dunlap
Winning Owner: Tavner Dunlap
Winning Trainer: Patrick L. Biancone

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6th race - Keeneland - April 11, 2007

Off at: 3:47 Race Type: Allowance
Age Restriction: Four Year Old and Upward
Sex Restriction: Fillies and Mares
Value of Race: $57,650
Distance: About Seven Furlongs
Surface Type: All Weather Track Track Condition: Fast
Winning Time: 1:26.31

Pgm Horse Jockey Win Place Show
3 Carriage Trail Edgar S. Prado 3.60 2.80 2.60
1 Natural Beauty Corey S. Nakatani 29.40 11.60
7 Leo's Pegasus Robby Albarado 3.40
Also ran: 5 - Dixie Dreamer , 8 - Hayden Valley , 10 - Divine Rahy , 11 - The Queen's Stamp , 2 - The Niagara Queen , 4 - Milago , 9 - Steve's Temptation
Scratched horses: Initforthekandy

Wager Type Winning Numbers Payoff

$2 Pick 3 3-9-3 (3 correct) 206.80
$2 Exacta 3-1 98.00
$2 Superfecta 3-1-7-5 3,660.20
$2 Trifecta 3-1-7 436.60
Winning Breeder: Stuart S. Janney, III & Phipps Stable
Winning Owner: Janney, III, Stuart S. and Phipps Stable
Winning Trainer: Claude R. McGaughey III

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saucon17 04-11-2007 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saucon17
I hope they revert to the track conditions they had on the first two
days. At least that track was a lot more honest than it is today.

Early Speed = No Chance Today

I Spoke too soon, Prado and Mary Delahney just wired.
I wonder if the rain tightened up the surface

Cajungator26 04-11-2007 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saucon17
I Spoke too soon, Prado and Mary Delahney just wired.
I wonder if the rain tightened up the surface

I wondered the same thing. She looked tired, but speed held.

saucon17 04-11-2007 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cajungator26
I wondered the same thing. She looked tired, but speed held.

Let's see how speed does in 9th there going 7f on the poly.

Cajungator26 04-11-2007 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saucon17
Let's see how speed does in 9th there going 7f on the poly.

Yeah, because that was actually a furlong longer than Mary Delaney's winning distance of 6f in the Wishing Well and Queen S. at Turfway... she seems to love the polytrack, though.

Kevin oughtta love the 6 horse in the 9th... Howaboutthemheels. Too funny. :D

Cajungator26 04-11-2007 04:21 PM

Speed almost held... another win for Leparoux.

saucon17 04-11-2007 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Speed almost held... another win for Leparoux.

There is rain in the forecast for the next couple of days. So we
will see if speed holds on better when it is raining. In the 9th #5
was cheap and quitting pig who held on well at 50-1

Pedigree Ann 04-11-2007 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bababooyee
Check the charts from the last week of the fall meet when they had very similar weather. While I don't have them offhand, it seems early speed continued to suffer in the wet (early speed really suffered at KEE all last fall...you had very few front-runners win).

This pisses some folks off, but it is a nice angle to use in your favor (and a good chunk of the betting public hasn't seemed to catch on yet).


Heck, the public can't seem to figure out that when there are a bunch of speed horses in the race, they will knock each other out and set it up for a closer. (I cashed nicely on Carmack's Choice).


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