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JDank34 04-09-2007 07:13 PM

Ketchikan
 
Lame in front left and definately off the Derby Trail according to Stall. He is heading for Rood and Riddle right now.

Cajungator26 04-09-2007 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JDank34
Lame in front left and definately off the Derby Trail according to Stall. He is heading for Rood and Riddle right now.

Terrible news! :(

JDank34 04-09-2007 07:17 PM

I agree. I have never been a big fan of Stall, but I think this horse has a lot of talent and showed his heart battling in the LD.

Cajungator26 04-09-2007 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JDank34
I agree. I have never been a big fan of Stall, but I think this horse has a lot of talent and showed his heart battling in the LD.

Agreed... thought he was very talented. Wonder what happened...

JDank34 04-09-2007 07:25 PM

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Agreed... thought he was very talented. Wonder what happened...

Stall said he breezed Saturday and was lame in the left front Sunday while grazing. He is heading to Dr. Bramledge for the same nuclear scan that pointed out Ravel's injury.

ArlJim78 04-09-2007 07:26 PM

%F!!@X*&%%#@

He was the one horse that I thought could really step up and surprise everyone.
damn!

paisjpq 04-09-2007 07:27 PM

since we are sharing...I heard second hand that if he is sound (ie they can't find anything at rood and riddle) then they will consider sending him in the Lexington...but only if he is 100%

Sightseek 04-09-2007 07:28 PM

Darn it.

philcski 04-09-2007 07:29 PM

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Darn it.

I know one person other than me that's mad about this.

Hope it's just a temporary thing. Nice horse on the improve.

Sightseek 04-09-2007 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
I know one person other than me that's mad about this.

Hope it's just a temporary thing. Nice horse on the improve.

He said he was giving up on horse racing. :(

Get well Kan!

philcski 04-09-2007 07:39 PM

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He said he was giving up on horse racing. :(

Get well Kan!

Awww... till Saturday, at least! ;)

Tell him I know how he feels. They retired my favorite older filly today and my Derby choice is managed by a bunch of guys playing monkey see, monkey do.

And I couldn't pick my way out of a paper bag on Saturday!

Sightseek 04-09-2007 07:45 PM

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Awww... till Saturday, at least! ;)

Tell him I know how he feels. They retired my favorite older filly today and my Derby choice is managed by a bunch of guys playing monkey see, monkey do.

And I couldn't pick my way out of a paper bag on Saturday!

I don't know...if someone put that paper bag on the floor of Aqueduct I'm sure you would have found your way right out of there and running for a shower!

What is it with you and the Porter horses? ;)

philcski 04-09-2007 07:48 PM

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I don't know...if someone put that paper bag on the floor of Aqueduct I'm sure you would have found your way right out of there and running for a shower!

What is it with you and the Porter horses? ;)

What can I say, he looks sexy in his red suit! :p

I hated Rockport Harbor, though...

Sightseek 04-09-2007 07:50 PM

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What can I say, he looks sexy in his red suit! :p

I hated Rockport Harbor, though...

LOL, so should we pitch in to get you a beautiful bow-tie to wear so you can appropriately cheer on Hard Spun?

Rudeboyelvis 04-09-2007 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
%F!!@X*&%%#@

He was the one horse that I thought could really step up and surprise everyone.
damn!

Seconded. I was thinking we'd see "Giacomo like" odds on him in the Derby...

Jim, at this point who do you like at a price? Now it seems like 5 favorites and the rest will be close to the money or so far away from a shot at it they can't be bet...

brianwspencer 04-09-2007 07:54 PM

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Seconded. I was thinking we'd see "Giacomo like" odds on him in the Derby...

Jim, at this point who do you like at a price? Now it seems like 5 favorites and the rest will be close to the money or so far away from a shot at it they can't be bet...


I know ya didn't ask me....but.....

I think that Notional is going to be a good price vis a vis his actual chances in the race. Obviously, there are a few big ones who will take the lion's share of the money -- rightfully so. But the number on Notional keeps going up and I think that his style and his versatility will fit the shape of the race perfectly. Not taking a stand yet and saying he's your winner, but wouldn't you assume that he's going to be 20-1+ given his last run?

philcski 04-09-2007 07:58 PM

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LOL, so should we pitch in to get you a beautiful bow-tie to wear so you can appropriately cheer on Hard Spun?

If they don't go in the Blue Grass I'm off the bandwagon!

ArlJim78 04-09-2007 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis
Seconded. I was thinking we'd see "Giacomo like" odds on him in the Derby...

Jim, at this point who do you like at a price? Now it seems like 5 favorites and the rest will be close to the money or so far away from a shot at it they can't be bet...

too early to say. I've got to see how the final field shapes up, after all the preps are run. I'm still optimistic that there could be a big price, or at least that big prices can hit the board generating a huge tri.

Its weird though because normally at this point I've got it narrowed down to at most a handful. this year? ha!

Rudeboyelvis 04-09-2007 08:04 PM

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but wouldn't you assume that he's going to be 20-1+ given his last run?

Great pick - a little hard to say with a couple other preps to go...I'm leaning more towards Stormello in the same range, but really thought Ketchikan would have seen 40 or 50-1....The door now seems closed on that type of number :(

at least against anyone that would have a shot...

brianwspencer 04-09-2007 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis
Great pick - a little hard to say with a couple other preps to go...I'm leaning more towards Stormello in the same range, but really thought Ketchikan would have seen 40 or 50-1....The door now seems closed on that type of number :(

at least against anyone that would have a shot...

I was interested too in Stormello earlier on the trail, and while his Fountain of Youth was gutsy, the Florida Derby really did him no favors. Though I guess Notional is on the same page. I think that Notional is live for the superfecta for sure and at a great price. What impresses me most about him is that he's obviously got the speed to contend with most who will enter, but the way he came out of the scrum in the Risen Star is a particular standout for me. That's the kind of toughness I want in a horse on Derby Day.


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