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Past Post 04-07-2007 08:35 PM

You players that had Tiago, Tell me How.
 
I missed the tri. and super because I did not put this horse Tiago in the top spot of my wagers.What did you see that I didnt in this horse.And please make some good facts for me.God dam,missed a big day.My key horse was King Of Roxy in the race.

GPK 04-07-2007 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Past Post
I missed the tri. and super because I did not put this horse Tiago in the top spot of my wagers.What did you see that I didnt in this horse.And please make some good facts for me.God dam,missed a big day.My key horse was King Of Roxy in the race.


can I have that chicks phone number???

Bogey 04-07-2007 08:47 PM

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can I have that chicks phone number???

GPK, did you nail the $35.40 winner in the 3rd at AQU?

POINTGIVEN1985 04-07-2007 08:54 PM

i liked him because i just did i guess, i thought the group as a whole was very very weak and it was a perfect spot for a up and comer to shock them, i thought tiago would be around 10-1 or 15-1 not what he was i was shocked to get those big odds, because of those odds i doubled my bet on him just because of the value i saw in him.

GPK 04-07-2007 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogey
GPK, did you nail the $35.40 winner in the 3rd at AQU?


spent all day at work Gus....just catching up on a few replays tonight.

You have that one?

Bogey 04-07-2007 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
spent all day at work Gus....just catching up on a few replays tonight.

You have that one?

Nope, but I'm placing a wager on the G3 John Connally at Sam Houston. 35MTP

Fort Prado looks to defend.

Bogey 04-07-2007 09:01 PM

PG, good work with Tiago.

Kasept 04-07-2007 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Past Post
I missed the tri. and super because I did not put this horse Tiago in the top spot of my wagers.What did you see that I didnt in this horse.And please make some good facts for me.God dam,missed a big day.My key horse was King Of Roxy in the race.

PP,

With a sprinter like Black Seventeen making his first route start as well as distance-challenged King of the Roxy coming of a sprint and pace-pressers like Level Red and Liquidity in the race, there was every potential for there to be a scenario for a meltdown. And that's exactly what you got.

John Shirreffs TOOK THE BLINKERS OFF Tiago today, as he said earlier this week that he thought he had figured some things out with this curious colt. Blinks off meant he was going to be far more relaxed early in the race and simply come with the one run that is naturally to his liking. As a son of Pleasant Tap, he was sure to like the added distance as well, and all that added up to what you saw today.

A pace meltdown.. natural stretch runner getting a set-up.. ran them all down when everybody else up front completely stopped running... Viola.

robfla 04-07-2007 09:03 PM

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And please make some good facts for me

I hit the "all" button in pick 3's

still blew the pick 3, Maktub and Romingo Domingo put a fork in it.
only paid $9,118.20

Past Post 04-07-2007 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
i liked him because i just did i guess, i thought the group as a whole was very very weak and it was a perfect spot for a up and comer to shock them, i thought tiago would be around 10-1 or 15-1 not what he was i was shocked to get those big odds, because of those odds i doubled my bet on him just because of the value i saw in him.


All right Point,I am happy for you that you made money.The reason you bet him is because he was an up and comer to shock them ??? Are you f--king kidding me.Please explain that phrase if you would please.No doubt you got a lot of help on the ride of Mig taking this horse wide,o so WIDE.Good job Mig on King of Roxy you chump.But,please tell me what you saw from this horse to be and up and comer.Maybe Randall can help me on this.

Past Post 04-07-2007 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
PP,

With a sprinter like Black Seventeen making his first route start as well as distance-challenged King of the Roxy coming of a sprint and pace-pressers like Level Red and Liquidity in the race, there was every potential for there to be a scenario for a meltdown. And that's exactly what you got.

John Shirreffs TOOK THE BLINKERS OFF Tiago today, as he said earlier this week that he thought he had figured some things out with this curious colt. Blinks off meant he was going to be far more relaxed early in the race and simply come with the one run that is naturally to his liking. As a son of Pleasant Tap, he was sure to like the added distance as well, and all that added up to what you saw today.

A pace meltdown.. natural stretch runner getting a set-up.. ran them all down when everybody else up front completely stopped running... Viola.


Steve,what has this horse done up to this point to be looked at as a play in this race.Nothing ! Is he really a horse you would key on top ? Or over your top plays ?

AeWingnut 04-07-2007 09:09 PM

you feel bad.. how do you think I feel. I bet the horse the last time out and because of the jockey switch I tossed him.

Mike Smith runs 1000 times and I don't bet him 1000 times and he beats me
once

Past Post 04-07-2007 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut
you feel bad.. how do you think I feel. I bet the horse the last time out and because of the jockey switch I tossed him.

Mike Smith runs 1000 times and I don't bet him 1000 times and he beats me
once

The next thing people will be telling me is Mike Smith is a great jockey !

Kasept 04-07-2007 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Past Post
All right Point,I am happy for you that you made money.The reason you bet him is because he was an up and comer to shock them ??? Are you f--king kidding me.Please explain that phrase if you would please.No doubt you got a lot of help on the ride of Mig taking this horse wide,o so WIDE.Good job Mig on King of Roxy you chump.But,please tell me what you saw from this horse to be and up and comer.Maybe Randall can help me on this.

PP,

Migliore's ride was terrific on King of the Roxy. He got into a perfect stalking spot right outside the early leaders. Where do you think a horse with natural early speed is going to go from the 8 hole? The horse, who has no interest in 9 furlongs, was beaten a length.

Your issue here isn't King of the Roxy or Mig.. (You keyed them, I assume first and second).. Your problem was you didn't see Tiago as an inclusion..

Cajungator26 04-07-2007 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
i liked him because i just did i guess, i thought the group as a whole was very very weak and it was a perfect spot for a up and comer to shock them, i thought tiago would be around 10-1 or 15-1 not what he was i was shocked to get those big odds, because of those odds i doubled my bet on him just because of the value i saw in him.

WTF?!!!

Kasept 04-07-2007 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Past Post
Steve,what has this horse done up to this point to be looked at as a play in this race.Nothing ! Is he really a horse you would key on top ? Or over your top plays ?

No. I didn't think he was a key horse.. I had him 4th. I liked him as an inclusion because he had shown some talent.. especially in that bizarre race where he was awarded the win.. I respect Shirreffs immensely and had read that he felt he had made some changes with the colt that were going affect him positively.. He is a Pleasant Tap who like added distance and I thought he had a chance to clunk up for third or fourth.

My error was excluding Roxy who couldn't get 9f on a flatbed and having any confidence in one of Hollendorfer's NoCal no-account Derby hopefuls. Cause to Believe.. Eye of the Tiger.. they're all the same. (Except Event of the Year who was a real horse..)

Past Post 04-07-2007 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
PP,

Migliore's ride was terrific on King of the Roxy. He got into a perfect stalking spot right outside the early leaders. Where do you think a horse with natural early speed is going to go from the 8 hole? The horse, who has no interest in 9 furlongs, was beaten a length.

Your issue here isn't King of the Roxy or Mig.. (You keyed them, I assume first and second).. Your problem was you didn't see Tiago as an inclusion..


I guess the point is,I could never use Tiago on Top,2nd 3rd or 4th yes.

As far as Mig. giving that horse King of the Roxy a good ride. NO !!!
Way to wide for my liking.Plently of time to settle in and get a better trip then what he got.

AeWingnut 04-07-2007 09:19 PM

one more thing.. what is my girlfriend doing on your avatar?

Cajungator26 04-07-2007 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut
one more thing.. what is my girlfriend doing on your avatar?

Look darlin, I told you it was over! LOL

Kasept 04-07-2007 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Past Post
The next thing people will be telling me is Mike Smith is a great jockey !

Mike Smith may be a shadow of his former self these days, but he is a Hall of Fame rider and is still capable of well-executed rides. His effort on Boca Grande last year (was it the Matron?) was so stunningly good that I wasn't sure it was actually him. Don't be skewed by blanket judgements about guys like him when they have a chance to win $45,000 in 1:49.0.


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