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TBJUNKY 03-20-2007 11:53 PM

First Crop Sleepers
 
Any thoughts on the biggest sleeper for first crop sires this year???? I think Aldebaren will improve his mares the most..............

citycat 03-21-2007 07:38 AM

The Zavata yearlings looked very nice at last years Keeneland sales. They were going for alot more than his stud fee. I will certainly be watching how they fair on the track.

Not a sleeper but overall the Vindication babies were the most impressive looking of all the first crop sires at last years sale.

jjf1031 03-21-2007 07:41 AM

Hold That Tiger

kentuckyrosesinmay 03-21-2007 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TBJUNKY
Any thoughts on the biggest sleeper for first crop sires this year???? I think Aldebaren will improve his mares the most..............

I wouldn't be surprised if the following sires' stud fees were raised next year...

Harlan's Holiday, Posse, Lightnin N Thunder, and Hook and Ladder.

The Empire Makers can run, but his stud fee is already really high.

I think that the biggest sleeper will be Harlan's Holiday if you correlate his actual stud fee to how good his two year olds look and to how much they are going for in the sales ring.

smuthg 03-21-2007 10:43 AM

When does Newfoundland's first crop hit the track?

paisjpq 03-21-2007 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by smuthg
When does Newfoundland's first crop hit the track?

should be 08 I think...think he stood his first season in 05

Linny 03-21-2007 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jjf1031
Hold That Tiger

A Hold That Tiger won a training race at Aiken early this week. She's a Dogwood filly named Tigeroo. Todd Pletcher will get her at KEE in a few weeks.

jjf1031 03-21-2007 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Linny
A Hold That Tiger won a training race at Aiken early this week. She's a Dogwood filly named Tigeroo. Todd Pletcher will get her at KEE in a few weeks.

Think his babies will do well and story is good to hear. Was a big fan of him in his forays over here as 2 and 3YO and think he could be a sleeper at stud

smuthg 03-21-2007 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
should be 08 I think...think he stood his first season in 05

thanks. I think he should be a quality and "value" sire...

Cajungator26 03-21-2007 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jjf1031
Think his babies will do well and story is good to hear. Was a big fan of him in his forays over here as 2 and 3YO and think he could be a sleeper at stud

Do you see him as a sleeper, though? I would think that their expectations for him would be fairly high considering he's a half to Editor's Note.

One that I see as a sleeper is Read the Footnotes.

saucon17 03-21-2007 11:02 AM

Proud Citizen has the posibility to be a very good first
year sire.

Round Pen 03-21-2007 11:15 AM

Not a real sleeper but I have about a 1/2 dozen Mineshafts. The ones I have just exude Pure Class. Beautiful movers on the track and as easy as can be to work around.

PPerfectfan 03-21-2007 11:24 AM

I think the Harlans Holidays will really make an impact. There has been nothing but great comments on his babies and his stud fee is very reasonable.

Linny 03-21-2007 11:31 AM

I friend of mine rides a Mineshaft filly who she describes as "evil to the core." Of course, if he's the hottest stallion this season I wont be shocked, but he's hardly a "sleeper" when he was the priciest stallion to enter stud his year.

kentuckyrosesinmay 03-21-2007 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by saucon17
Proud Citizen has the posibility to be a very good first
year sire.

I've seen several of his that I really like too....

jjf1031 03-21-2007 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Do you see him as a sleeper, though? I would think that their expectations for him would be fairly high considering he's a half to Editor's Note.

One that I see as a sleeper is Read the Footnotes.

I still think he is a sleeper. Cant remember but didnt Editors Note get better as distances stretched out? So I am going on assumption HTT will be a sleeper sire of 2yos. If that makes any sense

Cannon Shell 03-21-2007 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Do you see him as a sleeper, though? I would think that their expectations for him would be fairly high considering he's a half to Editor's Note.

Is that the 'noted sire' Editors Note?

Cannon Shell 03-21-2007 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TBJUNKY
Any thoughts on the biggest sleeper for first crop sires this year???? I think Aldebaren will improve his mares the most..............

Horses that stand for $50000 are usually not considered sleepers.

sumitas 03-21-2007 01:22 PM

My sleeper is Desert Warrior.
http://www.pedigreequery.com/desert+warrior
http://thoroughbredtimes.com/stallio...ion_no=5339453

brianwspencer 03-21-2007 01:31 PM

I think that for his $4,000 (?) stud fee, Freefourinternet might be a halfway decent sire.

I'm looking forward to seeing some of them race.


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