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paisjpq 03-15-2007 05:33 PM

Appealing Zophie
 
set to have a myectomy this week according to the TDN, after finishing last in the Fairgrounds Oaks.

randallscott35 03-15-2007 06:06 PM

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set to have a myectomy this week according to the TDN, after finishing last in the Fairgrounds Oaks.

The easiest excuse ever used....1 out of 5 of these makes a difference. Sometimes horses have off days. This was one of them.

paisjpq 03-15-2007 06:31 PM

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The easiest excuse ever used....1 out of 5 of these makes a difference. Sometimes horses have off days. This was one of them.

so by that logic...some vet is going to do sugery with ZERO evidence of throat dysfunction? okay, whatever.

randallscott35 03-15-2007 06:33 PM

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so by that logic...some vet is going to do sugery with ZERO evidence of throat disfunction? okay, whatever.

If you ask for it they will do it...From my experience the eventual impact in terms of performance a'la Saarland in his 3 yr old season is little to know improvement.

paisjpq 03-15-2007 06:35 PM

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If you ask for it they will do it...From my experience the eventual impact in terms of performance a'la Saarland in his 3 yr old season is little to know improvement.

you are right that they don't work very often...all the more reason not to perform the procedure on a horse that has had an "off day"...

randallscott35 03-15-2007 06:37 PM

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you are right that they don't work very often...all the more reason not to perform the procedure on a horse that has had an "off day"...

Sometimes banging that square peg into the round hole just seems right Beth...keep trucking.

paisjpq 03-15-2007 06:37 PM

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Sometimes banging that square peg into the round hole just seems right Beth...keep trucking.

what does that mean?

randallscott35 03-15-2007 06:41 PM

That just b/c they don't work often, its a convenient excuse and they'll keep trying them. They do work occasionally. But when a horse is gassed like a person, they are going to be gulping air. She bounced or maybe even tied up. It doesn't mean she needs the surgery....Look, my only point is when trainers are looking for some kind of reason for a performance this is an easy out if nothing physically was amiss. That was all.

paisjpq 03-15-2007 06:45 PM

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That just b/c they don't work often, its a convenient excuse and they'll keep trying them. They do work occasionally. But when a horse is gassed like a person, they are going to be gulping air. She bounced or maybe even tied up. It doesn't mean she needs the surgery....Look, my only point is when trainers are looking for some kind of reason for a performance this is an easy out if nothing physically was amiss. That was all.

and yet...if you do a tie-back on a horse with a healthy throat...that was having a bad day...you have done nothing but harm the horse...no one does surgery for fun Rand.

randallscott35 03-15-2007 06:53 PM

Boy I hope so though its considered a minor surgery with less than 2 weeks missed in training time....But I'm not in favor of unneeded surgery so maybe it will make a difference for her.

Danzig 03-15-2007 07:13 PM

i read a couple years ago that a trainer does these on every horse he claims. i bet his vet has that trainer on his christmas card list.

PPerfectfan 03-15-2007 11:38 PM

Well I was at the Fair Grounds Sat. and she stopped and stopped bad. But to me, she didnt look good in the paddock or post parade either. So you really never know. I hope that was the problem and it gets fixed. She is a nice filly.imo

Danzig 03-16-2007 05:07 AM

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Wasn't that Shuman/Gill?


you know, i think it was....don't hear much about those two any more--can't say that's a bad thing.

Bigsmc 03-16-2007 06:09 AM

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Wasn't that Shuman/Gill?


Yup.


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