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Downthestretch55 02-21-2007 10:05 AM

Wounded Vets Deserve Better
 
Returning US military wounded deserve much better treatment.
What is happening at Walter Reed is very troubling.
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/20/...t-walter-reed/

GenuineRisk 02-21-2007 11:40 AM

Here's the Washington Post article on the situation- the reporters spent four months there:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...021701172.html

Salon.com has been posting articles on Walter Reed for two years now. One of the articles mentioned that outpatients were being billed for their hospital meals. After the article came out, the Army changed the policy. Hooray for Salon!

Downthestretch55 02-21-2007 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk
Here's the Washington Post article on the situation- the reporters spent four months there:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...021701172.html

Salon.com has been posting articles on Walter Reed for two years now. One of the articles mentioned that outpatients were being billed for their hospital meals. After the article came out, the Army changed the policy. Hooray for Salon!

Genuine Risk,
Thanks for posting the link.
One thing I can't understand is, since the funding has been approved to the Dept of Defense, how come the money isn't being spent to provide for those that have made such great sacrifice?
Surely, the defense contractors are covered, their shareholders, and also private "mercenaries".
I just think it's very shameful for treating those that served and have been wounded both bodily and mentally to have this situation to come "home" to.
SHAME!!!!!!

timmgirvan 02-21-2007 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55
Returning US military wounded deserve much better treatment.
What is happening at Walter Reed is very troubling.
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/20/...t-walter-reed/

Tragic story indeed. Walter Reed and all of VA hospitals are in similar condition. Was surprised to see strident whining about the Rwpublicans,though! This situation is spread over several administrations...plenty blame to share. Would love to see this situation resolved without all the political BS.

GenuineRisk 02-21-2007 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmgirvan
Tragic story indeed. Walter Reed and all of VA hospitals are in similar condition. Was surprised to see strident whining about the Rwpublicans,though! This situation is spread over several administrations...plenty blame to share. Would love to see this situation resolved without all the political BS.

I think it's because this is the longest war with an all-volunteer army since what, the Revolutionary War, that it's making news- there are just that many more soldiers injured in combat. You'd think the Administration would have planned for injured soldiers. Or a long war. No, that's right, we were going to be greeted as liberators and the war would be done fast and on the cheap.

Where in the Post article did it whine about Republicans, Timm?

timmgirvan 02-21-2007 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk
I think it's because this is the longest war with an all-volunteer army since what, the Revolutionary War, that it's making news- there are just that many more soldiers injured in combat. You'd think the Administration would have planned for injured soldiers. Or a long war. No, that's right, we were going to be greeted as liberators and the war would be done fast and on the cheap.

Where in the Post article did it whine about Republicans, Timm?

It was in the comments following DTS's posting article. But you prove my point anyway! All inequities lead to Bush!

GenuineRisk 02-22-2007 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan
It was in the comments following DTS's posting article. But you prove my point anyway! All inequities lead to Bush!

Look, Timm, I know you love GW and want to have a million of his babies, but do really think the Adminstration has handled Iraq well? (Despite the teasing, believe it or not, I'm really, truly asking what a Bush supporter feels about Iraq.) What do you think about the past four years?

Downthestretch55 02-22-2007 11:32 AM

GR,
There might be more to this than meets the eye.
Heck, my guess is that "support our troops" might mean more than putting a yellow magnet ribbon on the back panel of one's car.
Did you hear what Cheney said about those that oppose the war?
This is getting more and more insane.
Let's just blame everyone else for the failures of this administration.
Even Brits are pulling out. That got spun as "good news".
Crazy times!

Downthestretch55 02-22-2007 12:08 PM

Brian mentioned this site in a different thread.
Here's one about "stop loss".
http://pandagon.net/2007/02/19/what-...ean/#more-4761

Downthestretch55 02-22-2007 12:46 PM

GR,
Here's a link to Cheney's words. This tactic has been tried before.
It didn't work then either (see Nov. elections)
Pelosi's response seems polite. War criminals evade.:rolleyes:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070222/...zm8aK3OCKyFz4D

Downthestretch55 02-22-2007 02:02 PM

Follow up.
Back to your mouse infested, roach infested rooms!
Wait for the report in 45 days. Yes, you heard me! WAIT!!
This is under "review".
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?...&article=43763

timmgirvan 02-22-2007 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk
Look, Timm, I know you love GW and want to have a million of his babies, but do really think the Adminstration has handled Iraq well? (Despite the teasing, believe it or not, I'm really, truly asking what a Bush supporter feels about Iraq.) What do you think about the past four years?

GR: Really...we're not THAT close! I'm not happy about Iraq by any means. A more complete answer can be seen in the link I posted on another thread.

brianwspencer 02-22-2007 06:17 PM

As for Cheney's assertion that the partial British pullout is a sign that things are going well in Iraq, Pelosi said: "If it's going so well, we'd like to withdraw our troops as well."

Oh man, that woman tugs at my heartstrings every time she opens her mouth. I may have just cracked a smile when reading about Iraq for the first time in years.

timmgirvan 02-22-2007 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Downthestretch55
Follow up.
Back to your mouse infested, roach infested rooms!
Wait for the report in 45 days. Yes, you heard me! WAIT!!
This is under "review".
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?...&article=43763

Your idea would be "Do something...even if it's wrong?" Hopefully these vets get their due....they certainly deserve it.

hoovesupsideyourhead 02-22-2007 07:18 PM

va hospitals have been a joke for along time.....they are allmost as dangerous as the war that put these and others over the years in there..

dellinger63 02-22-2007 09:13 PM

Oh how history is forgotten. When Gore ran his 'I'm the inventor of the internet campaign' does everyone forget how he tried to throw out ballets coming from servicemen overseas and voting absentee?
Kerry thinks they're just a bunch of uneducated minorities and hicks. This is his position on active servicemen what more injured and retired ones. He thinks Nam vets were baby killers. And then there's Clinton who fled to Russia during Viet Nam.
Both sides are guilty!

Downthestretch55 03-01-2007 04:02 PM

Fired.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/03/01/walter.reed/

Downthestretch55 03-02-2007 04:55 PM

Army Secretary resigns...
http://today.reuters.com/news/articl...e-C1-topNews-3

2MinsToPost 03-02-2007 05:04 PM

A classic example of something that will bug me till the day I die. My grandfather served this country, on the mainland and over seas. He put in his time. He then went on and worked his whole adult life and retired at the ripe young age of his early 80's. When he retired, he recieved just a shy over $1,000 a month from Social Security, thats it. Granted, he did not work for the same company all his life, but............................................... .....

There has to be a better way to treat those who serve. His funeral was special as 2 men from Fort Knox gave us (family) and him a special memorial with the flag folded, etc.. But financially, that was a slap in the face in my opinion.

Not too mention thru all his medical problem late in life, the VA was not a big help.

Downthestretch55 03-05-2007 02:19 PM

I post this in respectful silence.
May they rest in peace. May their sacrifices not have been made in vain, nor their lives "wasted".
Rest in peace.
http://www.commondreams.org/views07/0305-24.htm


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