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Kasept 01-06-2020 05:21 AM

1/25 (GP): Pegasus ~ UPDATE: Omaha Beach out..
 
$3 million PEGASUS WORLD CUP

To be run Saturday as race 12 of 12
Post time: 5:45 p.m. Eastern
TV: NBC (4:30-6)
For 4-year-olds and up at 1 1/8 miles

(PP, Horse, Jockey, GP M/L)

1. TRUE TIMBER, J.Bravo, 20-1
2. TAX, J.Ortiz, 12-1
3. DIAMOND OOPS, J.Leparoux, 20-1
4. SEEKING THE SOUL, J.Velazquez, 30-1
5. OMAHA BEACH, M.Smith, 7-5
6. HIGHER POWER, F.Prat, 6-1
7. WAR STORY, J.Rosario, 30-1
8. MR FREEZE, L.Saez, 30-1
9. SPUN TO RUN, J.Castellano, 7-2
10. MUCHO GUSTO, I.OrtizJr., 9-2
11. TENFOLD, T.Gaffalione, 30-1
12. BODEXPRESS, E.Jaramillo, 30-1



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$1 million PEGASUS WORLD CUP TURF

Race 11 of 12
Post time, 5:15
For 4-year-olds and up at 1 3/16 miles (turf)

(PP, Horse, Jockey, GP M/L)

1. ZULU ALPHA, T.Gaffalione, 12-1
2. ARKLOW, L.Saez, 6-1
3. WITHOUT PAROLE, F.Dettori, 4-1
4. SADLER’S JOY, J.Castellano, 8-1
5. CHANNEL CAT, J.Velazquez, 10-1
6. INSTILLED REGARD, I.OrtizJr., 10-1
7. ADMISSION OFFICE, F.Prat, 30-1
8. HENLEY’S JOY, J.Leparoux, 30-1
9. NEXT SHARES, J.ValdiviaJr., 30-1
10. MO FORZA, J.Rosario, 5-1
11. SACRED LIFE, J.Ortiz, 12-1
12. MAGIC WAND, R.Moore, 7-2
13 (AE). TUSK, no rider, 30-1


Dahoss 01-06-2020 07:58 AM

Unfortunate the West’s would rather run in Saudi Arabia than the Pegasus against a real challenger.

They must need the money :rolleyes:

senator L 01-06-2020 09:24 AM

Competitive turf race...interesting to
see Starship Jubilee take a shot

knickslions2 01-06-2020 09:52 AM

Looking at that Pegasus field Maximum Security would have been tough to beat there as main speed. Turf race looks fun.

blackthroatedwind 01-06-2020 11:15 AM

I've seen the future, and it's not too inspiring.

Dahoss 01-06-2020 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 1133825)
Looking at that Pegasus field Maximum Security would have been tough to beat there as main speed. Turf race looks fun.

Too bad they were afraid of Omaha Beach

moses 01-06-2020 05:26 PM

How do they come up with the invite list? Was Performer excluded or do the connections have no interest running in the Pegasus?

freddymo 01-06-2020 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1133823)
Unfortunate the West’s would rather run in Saudi Arabia than the Pegasus against a real challenger.

They must need the money :rolleyes:

They have no children and are VERY charitable people. Maybe Servis wants the easy cake? It's a lot of easy money and Saudi is beautiful this time of year

freddymo 01-06-2020 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moses (Post 1133841)
How do they come up with the invite list? Was Performer excluded or do the connections have no interest running in the Pegasus?

Shug said Carter on steves show

moses 01-06-2020 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 1133845)
Shug said Carter on steves show

Cool, thanks. I didn’t catch that one.

Dahoss 01-07-2020 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 1133844)
They have no children and are VERY charitable people. Maybe Servis wants the easy cake? It's a lot of easy money and Saudi is beautiful this time of year

Kind of easy to be charitable when you’re a billionaire, no? Not that it has anything to do with my post.

They’ve been VERY careful with him since the Derby, protecting him, running him in spots where he can’t lose (but did.)

I guess the fan in me would rather see them take on a legitimate contender than run in Saudi Arabia against no one, but I’m crazy that way.

moses 01-07-2020 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1133847)
Kind of easy to be charitable when you’re a billionaire, no? Not that it has anything to do with my post.

They’ve been VERY careful with him since the Derby, protecting him, running him in spots where he can’t lose (but did.)

I guess the fan in me would rather see them take on a legitimate contender than run in Saudi Arabia against no one, but I’m crazy that way.

Looking at the horses with that race as a possibility, aren’t McKinzie and Gift Box both better than Omaha Beach? Unless you’re talking about a horse other than OB in the Pegasus.

That said, I really would have liked to see Omaha Beach and Maximum Security face off.

freddymo 01-07-2020 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1133847)
Kind of easy to be charitable when you’re a billionaire, no? Not that it has anything to do with my post.

They’ve been VERY careful with him since the Derby, protecting him, running him in spots where he can’t lose (but did.)

I guess the fan in me would rather see them take on a legitimate contender than run in Saudi Arabia against no one, but I’m crazy that way.

They are giving away their entire net worth. I would love to see the horse stay in States and race here, and who the hell wants to support a race that is sure to alienate the handicap division for us further? West seems to be a complicated guy many love him and many not so much...takes all types

knickslions2 01-07-2020 01:18 PM

I think everyone would love to see Omaha Beach and Maximum Security race and hopefully it happens. I don't think MS is ducking OB. Why would he have to? Its all about money. Its always about money.

cakes44 01-07-2020 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 1133853)
I think everyone would love to see Omaha Beach and Maximum Security race and hopefully it happens. I don't think MS is ducking OB. Why would he have to? Its all about money. Its always about money.

Hopefully it happens? This is Omaha Beach's last race.

knickslions2 01-07-2020 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 1133855)
Hopefully it happens? This is Omaha Beach's last race.

Well I missed that. Too bad

Dahoss 01-07-2020 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moses (Post 1133848)
Looking at the horses with that race as a possibility, aren’t McKinzie and Gift Box both better than Omaha Beach? Unless you’re talking about a horse other than OB in the Pegasus.

That said, I really would have liked to see Omaha Beach and Maximum Security face off.

McKinzie would need every bit of Baffert magic to be close to Omaha Beach IMO and Gift Box couldn’t warm him up.

Dahoss 01-07-2020 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 1133849)
They are giving away their entire net worth. I would love to see the horse stay in States and race here, and who the hell wants to support a race that is sure to alienate the handicap division for us further? West seems to be a complicated guy many love him and many not so much...takes all types

So what is your point other than the usual straddle both sides of the fence? Do you have one?

Dahoss 01-07-2020 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 1133853)
I think everyone would love to see Omaha Beach and Maximum Security race and hopefully it happens. I don't think MS is ducking OB. Why would he have to? Its all about money. Its always about money.

Why did they duck the Preakness, Belmont, Travers, etc?

The West’s are billionaires. Money isn’t their motivation IMO. They certainly wouldn’t have run him for 16k if it was.

freddymo 01-07-2020 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1133858)
So what is your point other than the usual straddle both sides of the fence? Do you have one?

The guy is a polarizing figure, a jerk that pisses a community off and a guy who does wonderful things for the community. Who the heck would want to go to Saudi other than a trainer looking for a huge payday or guy who is still pissed his 16 claimer didn't win the derby


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