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Kasept 04-26-2010 09:37 AM

136th Kentucky Derby (PP's)
 
Derby Contenders PP's

1 Lookin At Lucky $1,480,000
2 Noble's Promise $738,000
3 Sidney's Candy $630,000
4 Line of David $600,000
5 Mission Impazible $473,434
6 Ice Box $457,500
7 Stately Victor $450,000
8 Conveyance $386,000
9 American Lion $378,000
10 Dublin $373,208

11 Super Saver $363,832
12 Devil May Care $363,000
13 Discreetly Mine $355,000
14 Dean’s Kitten $326,475
15 Awesome Act $285,000
16 Paddy O'Prado $250,950
17 Homeboykris (g) $250,500
18 Jackson Bend $230,000
19 Backtalk $222,566
20 Make Music for Me $218,750
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21 Pleasant Prince $189,278
T-22 Setsuko $180,000
T-22 A Little Warm $180,000

randallscott35 04-26-2010 09:41 AM

Is there Ken Ramsey sends a few "pies" ala the Sopranos to some trainers?

randallscott35 04-26-2010 09:44 AM

Exhi wouldn't run wouldn't run according to TAP

asudevil 04-26-2010 09:57 AM

What's the story with MMFM, Pleasant Prince, and Backtalk?

Payson Dave 04-26-2010 10:25 AM

TV Coverage
 
Bravo - Kentucky Oaks
Friday, April 30
5-6 p.m. EDT
Bravo


ESPN - Kentucky Derby Undercard
Saturday, May 1
11 a.m. to 4 p.m. EDT
ESPN


NBC - Kentucky Derby Red Carpet Special
Saturday, May 1
4-5 p.m. EDT
NBC


NBC - Kentucky Derby 136
Saturday, May 1
5-7 p.m. EDT
NBC

cakes44 04-26-2010 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Payson Dave (Post 639866)

NBC - Kentucky Derby Red Carpet Special
Saturday, May 1
4-5 p.m. EDT
NBC


NBC - Kentucky Derby 136
Saturday, May 1
5-7 p.m. EDT
NBC

So during which one of these do they have the Woodford running in the background, but don't actually air it? That's awesome TV coverage.

randallscott35 04-26-2010 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 639873)
So during which one of these do they have the Woodford running in the background, but don't actually air it? That's awesome TV coverage.

Been that way for years now. Kills me.

pweizer 04-26-2010 10:51 AM

I would really like to see Make Music for Me draw in.

Paul

TouchOfGrey 04-26-2010 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asudevil (Post 639851)
What's the story with MMFM, Pleasant Prince, and Backtalk?

Outsiders Backtalk, Make Music for Me Work

Quote:

Backtalk, with jockey Miguel Mena aboard, breezed five furlongs in 1:01 3/5 over the Polytrack at Keeneland. Working in company with Sangre Frio, the son of Smarty Jones was timed in fractions of :12 2/5, :25, :37 4/5, and :50 2/5 while galloping out six furlongs in 1:14 4/5.

Make Music for Me, a son of Bernstein , breezed five furlongs in 1:02 2/5 over a Churchill Downs track labeled "good," with fractions of :12 2/5, :24 4/5, :37 3/5, and :49 2/5. He galloped out six furlongs in 1:18.

justindew 04-26-2010 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 639873)
So during which one of these do they have the Woodford running in the background, but don't actually air it? That's awesome TV coverage.

This is seriously the most tired complaint in all of racing.

parsixfarms 04-26-2010 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justindew (Post 639885)
This is seriously the most tired complaint in all of racing.

Actually, it's not. The networks have typically owned the rights to the Woodford and Manhattan but elected not to show them, resulting in a TV blackout for the races. If they aren't going to show them, don't buy the rights to the races and let someone else air them.

justindew 04-26-2010 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parsixfarms (Post 639896)
Actually, it's not. The networks have typically owned the rights to the Woodford and Manhattan but elected not to show them, resulting in a TV blackout for the races. If they aren't going to show them, don't buy the rights to the races and let someone else air them.

The networks dont show them because they don't want casual fans to tune out as soon as the Woodford and Manhattan are over because they think they just watched the Derby or Belmont. And those fluff pieces they show instead keep people watching. And they don't let other networks show the races becasue they want all the viewers watchng their broadcast.

RolloTomasi 04-26-2010 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justindew (Post 639921)
The networks dont show them because they don't want casual fans to tune out as soon as the Woodford and Manhattan are over because they think they just watched the Derby or Belmont. And those fluff pieces they show instead keep people watching. And they don't let other networks show the races becasue they want all the viewers watchng their broadcast.

Yep. Nothing in that explanation to complain about.

Back in line, drones!

parsixfarms 04-26-2010 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justindew (Post 639921)
The networks dont show them because they don't want casual fans to tune out as soon as the Woodford and Manhattan are over because they think they just watched the Derby or Belmont. And those fluff pieces they show instead keep people watching. And they don't let other networks show the races becasue they want all the viewers watchng their broadcast.


And how does this weak explanation, even if correct, make the complaint "tired"? Damn those racing fans/bettors who actually want to watch two of the typically six most important grass races contested in North America on an annual basis.

joeydb 04-26-2010 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justindew (Post 639921)
The networks dont show them because they don't want casual fans to tune out as soon as the Woodford and Manhattan are over because they think they just watched the Derby or Belmont. And those fluff pieces they show instead keep people watching. And they don't let other networks show the races becasue they want all the viewers watchng their broadcast.

That explaination does sound correct. It fits what the suits at the networks want to do.

But it still sucks.

NTamm1215 04-26-2010 02:01 PM

Yeah, it's sort of like an Irish Pub telling their regulars that they can't have beer between 4:00 and 5:00 PM on St. Patrick's Day so they can accomodate the scores of college kids that are there for one day and never come back.

NT

Thunder Gulch 04-26-2010 02:06 PM

Most horseplayers and hardcore fans are at the track or the OTB anyway.

LARHAGE 04-26-2010 02:21 PM

Last year HRTV went ahead and showed the Woodford Reserve live, hopefully they do this year as well.

Linny 04-26-2010 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justindew (Post 639921)
The networks dont show them because they don't want casual fans to tune out as soon as the Woodford and Manhattan are over because they think they just watched the Derby or Belmont. And those fluff pieces they show instead keep people watching. And they don't let other networks show the races becasue they want all the viewers watchng their broadcast.

Thats a lame excuse because they show other races on the Derby card. The casual fans wouldn't know th Humana Distaff from the KY Derby.


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