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Kasept 09-26-2019 11:38 AM

BC ENTRIES: Sprint, F&M Sprint, Turf Sprint, Dirt Mile
 

Kasept 10-01-2019 05:10 PM




cakes44 10-13-2019 02:21 AM

I don’t get the Dirt Mile and the two turns with Mitole.

Kasept 10-13-2019 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 1131550)
I don’t get the Dirt Mile and the two turns with Mitole.

His best has come at 7f (CD & Forego) and 1m (Met) and his one off effort this year came at 6f (Vanderbilt, albeit on the dead inside). The Dirt Mile is a silly event, but it is a high-enough profile two turn G1 that can enhance his resume. He's going to Spendthrift and they may have been in on the decision too. If he gets beat, a loss in the Dirt Mile doesn't dent his fender like a loss in the Sprint.

Dahoss 10-13-2019 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1131551)
His best has come at 7f (CD & Forego) and 1m (Met) and his one off effort this year came at 6f (Vanderbilt, albeit on the dead inside). The Dirt Mile is a silly event, but it is a high-enough profile two turn G1 that can enhance his resume. He's going to Spendthrift and they may have been in on the decision too. If he gets beat, a loss in the Dirt Mile doesn't dent his fender like a loss in the Sprint.

I’m not sure I agree his best efforts have been at 7F and a mile. And while he was not good in the Vanderbilt, he had an excuse. He was brilliant in both six furlong races at Oaklawn in the winter and all last season.

He already won the race that is the most coveted stallion maker by winning the Met. The thing is, he has a chance to definitively win the eclipse with a win in the sprint. But, winning the Mile doesn’t necessarily mean the sprinter eclipse if Imperial Hint wins. And if he loses the Mile and Imperial Hint wins, he’s definitely not winning.

I suppose a win in the Mile could make him the favorite for the older male eclipse, assuming a longshot or 3 year old wins then Classic.

He just doesn’t strike me as a two turn horse and while I’m not paying the bills, this does seem like a Spendthrift decision because you’d think Asmussen would’ve tried to get a two turn race into him. Just seems strange to me and more evidence of how terrible the Mile has been for various BC races.

blackthroatedwind 10-13-2019 10:27 AM

Pulling a Liam's Map with Mitole would be unfortunate.

Kasept 10-13-2019 11:03 AM

Sprint as likely as Mile for Mitole.. Was just providing a rationale for Mile consideration.

senator L 10-15-2019 05:35 PM

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🆕 "I’m almost positive he’s going with the Sprint," owner Rick Porter says of Omaha Beach's
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Konk 10-16-2019 10:03 AM

I can't see OB as a factor in the Sprint.
His BEST figs are inferior to more than one other in there.

I would put him in the Dirt Mile.

Kasept 10-17-2019 02:04 PM

Mandella chooses Dirt Mile for Omaha Beach..
 
Art Wilson reports Omaha Beach to the Dirt Mile..

Dahoss 10-17-2019 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1131666)
Art Wilson reports Omaha Beach to the Dirt Mile..

Weird that two days ago Porter was sure the Sprint was where he was going.

cakes44 10-17-2019 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1131667)
Weird that two days ago Porter was sure the Sprint was where he was going.

I would guess that means Mitole in the Sprint. And heck, the Sprint looks like the best race(at least the one with the most good horses) of the weekend.

knickslions2 10-17-2019 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1131666)
Art Wilson reports Omaha Beach to the Dirt Mile..

Smart choice in my opinion. Didn’t see him having a shot in sprint.

Kasept 10-18-2019 11:21 AM

Landeskog very possible in the Sprint per Doug O'Neill on ATR Friday..

Kasept 10-18-2019 03:01 PM

Promises Fulfilled out of Cup consideration..

Kasept 10-26-2019 06:25 PM

Whitmore a go for Sprint; Jock decision pending..

Kasept 10-29-2019 11:47 AM

Landeskog a Sprint SCR
 
PRIVMAN: Landeskog will be scratched from @BreedersCup Sprint, per O'Neill

Landeskog will be scratched from the Breeders' Cup Sprint on Saturday, trainer Doug O'Neill said on Tuesday morning.

"He's 95 percent. Not 100. We have to wait for another day," O'Neill said. "He's a cool horse with a bright future."

O'Neill said that Landeskog "cooled out a little funny" after his last work. "He tied up, not bad," he said.

O'Neill said a nuclear scan was done and X-rays were clean. Landeskog went back to the track for a routine day of training on Tuesday, but O'Neill said he was "not 100-percent happy" with how he went and decided it was best to pass.

He said the owners of Landeskog, including Erik Johnson of the Colorado Avalanche, "made it easy to do the right thing."

"They said the horse comes first," O'Neill said.

jms62 10-29-2019 03:13 PM

Question on Juvenile Turf Sprint. Am I correct in assuming that all these Euro Turf Sprints are contested on a Straight Away and the Euro entries in this race don't have experience in taking a turn during an actual race?

Clip-Clop 10-29-2019 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1131946)
PRIVMAN: Landeskog will be scratched from @BreedersCup Sprint, per O'Neill

Landeskog will be scratched from the Breeders' Cup Sprint on Saturday, trainer Doug O'Neill said on Tuesday morning.

"He's 95 percent. Not 100. We have to wait for another day," O'Neill said. "He's a cool horse with a bright future."

O'Neill said that Landeskog "cooled out a little funny" after his last work. "He tied up, not bad," he said.

O'Neill said a nuclear scan was done and X-rays were clean. Landeskog went back to the track for a routine day of training on Tuesday, but O'Neill said he was "not 100-percent happy" with how he went and decided it was best to pass.

He said the owners of Landeskog, including Erik Johnson of the Colorado Avalanche, "made it easy to do the right thing."

"They said the horse comes first," O'Neill said.

Just like his namesake. Bummer.

robfla 10-29-2019 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1131950)
Question on Juvenile Turf Sprint. Am I correct in assuming that all these Euro Turf Sprints are contested on a Straight Away and the Euro entries in this race don't have experience in taking a turn during an actual race?


I'm pretty sure DRF PPs have a designation after the circled "t" for turf.

there is a small str or LH

I saw a few scattered LH...but for most part was str

MichiganMattA 10-30-2019 08:38 PM

Anyone know where Imprimis has been training or the reason he hasn’t worked since his last race October 5?

Rudeboyelvis 11-02-2019 11:37 AM

Has there ever been a reason given by Pletcher for Castellano being put up on Coal Front rather than Johnny V who's got 4 graded stakes wins with him?

blackthroatedwind 11-02-2019 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 1132171)
Has there ever been a reason given by Pletcher for Castellano being put up on Coal Front rather than Johnny V who's got 4 graded stakes wins with him?

John Panagot, Javier's agent, has worked with Bob LaPenta in the past. I'm not sure if he still does but it may be related to that.

moses 11-03-2019 01:04 PM

Should Winstar switch Improbable to a different barn? Baffert is great but obviously something isn’t clicking there. Maybe Improbable just isn’t as good as we thought he could be...but maybe he needs a different perspective. Just some thoughts.

cakes44 11-03-2019 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by moses (Post 1132322)
Should Winstar switch Improbable to a different barn? Baffert is great but obviously something isn’t clicking there. Maybe Improbable just isn’t as good as we thought he could be...but maybe he needs a different perspective. Just some thoughts.

Who in the world is gonna get more out of that turd? Looks/trains like Tarzan, and runs like Jayne. Baffert convinced me to bet him after he wouldn’t shut up about how the horse was training. The horse embarrassed himself yet again.

cakes44 11-03-2019 07:29 PM

Improbable couldn’t hold Dortmund’s jock.

moses 11-04-2019 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 1132336)
Who in the world is gonna get more out of that turd? Looks/trains like Tarzan, and runs like Jayne. Baffert convinced me to bet him after he wouldn’t shut up about how the horse was training. The horse embarrassed himself yet again.

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Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 1132337)
Improbable couldn’t hold Dortmund’s jock.

Not sure but his approach doesn’t seem to be working. Maybe no one can get better out of him...or maybe he needs to take a drop in class. Seems like some sort of change is worth trying.

freddymo 11-04-2019 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by moses (Post 1132343)
Not sure but his approach doesn’t seem to be working. Maybe no one can get better out of him...or maybe he needs to take a drop in class. Seems like some sort of change is worth trying.

Turf horse that runs Ok on dirt


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