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Kasept 02-10-2019 04:35 AM

Weekend Stakes Beyers
 
TAM Sam F. Davis S (G3): Well Defined 93 (With Distinction) K. O'Connell/P. Morales
TAM Tampa Bay S (G3): Inspector Lynley 101 (Lemon Drop Kid) C. McGaughey/J. Ortiz
TAM Endeavour S (G3): Hawksmoor-IRE 95 (Azamour-IRE) A. Delacour/J. Castellano
TAM Suncoast S: Point of Honor 82 (Curlin) G. Weaver/J. Castellano

SA San Marcos S (G2): Platinum Warrior-IRE 97 (Galileo-IRE) J. Sadler/S. Foley
SA Las Virgenes S (G2): Bellafina 90 (Quality Road) S. Callaghan/F. Prat
SA Thunder Road S (G3): True Valour-IRE 95 (Kodiac-GB) S. Callaghan/A. Atzeni
SA San Vicente S (G2): Sparky Ville 94 (Candy Ride-ARG) J. Bonde/J. Rosario
SA Sweet Life S (O/T): Apache Princess 73 (Unusual Heat) J. Desormeaux/K. Desormeaux

GP Suwannee River S (G3): Valedictorian 93 (Temple City) K. Breen/T. Gaffalione
GP El Prado S: Hembree 93 (Proud Citizen) M. Maker/I. Ortiz
GP OC/N1X (8.5f): Global Campaign 77 (Curlin) S. Hough/L. Saez

AQU Jimmy Winkfield S: Haikal 84 (Daaher) K. McLaughlin/R. Maragh
AQU Biogio's Rose S: Frostie Anne 88 (Frost Giant) R. Rodriguez/H. Diaz

OP King Cotton S: Heartwood 94 (Tapit) J. Chapman/D. Cohen

DED LA Bred Premier Night Championship S: Grand Luwegee 89 (El Corredor) G. Perron/D. Saenz
DED LA Bred Premier Night Distaff S: Hyper Piper 73 (Old Fashioned) S. David/T. Thornton
DED LA Bred Premier Night Sprint S: Wonder Run 89 (Run Production) S. Flint/D. Saenz
DED LA Bred Premier Night Matron S: Ours to Run 81 (Half Ours) J. Jones/R. Morales
DED LA Bred Premier Night Prince S: Shang 85 (Shanghai Bobby) S. Asmussen/D. Saenz
DED LA Bred Premier Night Starlet S: Goodprofit 71 (Guilt Trip) C. Richard/G. Melancon

TUP Phoenix Gold Cup H: Minister of Soul 89 (Ministers Wild Cat) E. Martinez/G. Corbett

FG Shantel Lanerie Memorial S: Winter Sunset 80 (Tapit) W. Catalano/C. Hill
FG OC?N1X (8.5f): Dream Maker 89 (Tapit) M. Casse/F. Geroux

RHT2004 02-10-2019 11:42 AM

A lot of buzz about Global Campaign. Jason Blewit was asking him or Hidden Scroll? I dont see the comparison at all. Hidden Scroll is different. Global Campaign is OK, but it doesn't feel like he's going to want to go long. I dont like the way he finished up yesterday, and i don't think the 2nd place horse is very good. Also the horse he beat 1st out is about 3-5 or less at Gulfstream today and i dont think he's a cinch.

moses 02-10-2019 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1121757)
A lot of buzz about Global Campaign. Jason Blewit was asking him or Hidden Scroll? I dont see the comparison at all. Hidden Scroll is different. Global Campaign is OK, but it doesn't feel like he's going to want to go long. I dont like the way he finished up yesterday, and i don't think the 2nd place horse is very good. Also the horse he beat 1st out is about 3-5 or less at Gulfstream today and i dont think he's a cinch.

I don’t see the comparison to Hidden Scroll. Is it simply recency bias? I see no reason for Global Campaign to be 24-1 in the futures pool when Mucho Gusto is 21-1, Coliseum is 21-1, Vekoma is 35-1, and I’ll even throw Instagrand at 13-1. I don’t see the value at 24-1 for that horse.

moses 02-10-2019 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by moses (Post 1121774)
I don’t see the comparison to Hidden Scroll. Is it simply recency bias? I see no reason for Global Campaign to be 24-1 in the futures pool when Mucho Gusto is 21-1, Coliseum is 21-1, Vekoma is 35-1, and I’ll even throw Instagrand at 13-1. I don’t see the value at 24-1 for that horse.

Also, I reluctantly say Coliseum because I think Dessman wins that race today.

blackthroatedwind 02-10-2019 05:32 PM

Global Campaign isn't even remotely a Derby contender. It's just silly.

declansharbor 02-10-2019 08:03 PM

Coliseum closing out at 21-1 when finishing up the track in his two prior starts (both at 3/5) might easily be the funniest thing horse racing brings us in 2019. It’s unREAL to me, and something I’m not wrapping my head around. I wouldn’t take him at 210-1 let alone 21-1. HELL, I would’nt even take him at 210-1 to make the Kentucky Derby!

RHT2004 02-10-2019 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1121780)
Global Campaign isn't even remotely a Derby contender. It's just silly.

I completely agree.

RHT2004 02-10-2019 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor (Post 1121797)
Coliseum closing out at 21-1 when finishing up the track in his two prior starts (both at 3/5) might easily be the funniest thing horse racing brings us in 2019. It’s unREAL to me, and something I’m not wrapping my head around. I wouldn’t take him at 210-1 let alone 21-1. HELL, I would’nt even take him at 210-1 to make the Kentucky Derby!

He had a massive buzz before his debut, then validated it. I could give him a break for the 1st flop, but not 2x.

blackthroatedwind 02-10-2019 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor (Post 1121797)
Coliseum closing out at 21-1 when finishing up the track in his two prior starts (both at 3/5) might easily be the funniest thing horse racing brings us in 2019. It’s unREAL to me, and something I’m not wrapping my head around. I wouldn’t take him at 210-1 let alone 21-1. HELL, I would’nt even take him at 210-1 to make the Kentucky Derby!

I think the pool closed well before today's race.

He was a joke at 21:1 regardless....just clarifying.

moses 02-10-2019 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1121804)
I think the pool closed well before today's race.

He was a joke at 21:1 regardless....just clarifying.

True...and true.

Kasept 02-11-2019 06:41 AM

Anybody see Dream Maker's return Saturday? Tampa Bay Derby likely next..

Kasept 02-11-2019 06:43 AM

SA San Vicente S (G2): Sparky Ville 94 (Candy Ride-ARG) J. Bonde/J. Rosario
SA Sweet Life S (O/T): Apache Princess 73 (Unusual Heat) J. Desormeaux/K. Desormeaux

AQU Biogio's Rose S: Frostie Anne 88 (Frost Giant) R. Rodriguez/H. Diaz

RHT2004 02-11-2019 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1121810)
Anybody see Dream Maker's return Saturday? Tampa Bay Derby likely next..

Where?

RHT2004 02-11-2019 07:13 AM

Found it.

knickslions2 02-11-2019 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1121810)
Anybody see Dream Maker's return Saturday? Tampa Bay Derby likely next..

Tampa Derby is looking like a nice prep race.


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