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FATPIANO 07-30-2016 09:25 AM

Be Hold Her
 
One of the finest filly or mare's that I have seen race in my lifetime, and I am over 60, a grade 1 winner at 2 ,3 4 ,5 and 6, a dual BC winner a 3 time eclipse Champion, this is a very special and very rare animal, enjoy her while you can, you will probably never ever see another horse do what she has done consistently from 2 to 6yrs old, Good Luck today against a great Stellar Wind, and can't wait for Beholder to meet the boys again in The Pacific Classic.....The Queen is back, Long Live the Queen

Seattleallstar 07-30-2016 07:45 PM

not her usual today, hopefully her best is still to come

Rileyoriley 07-30-2016 07:50 PM

Didn't look like herself in post parade. Everybody's entitled to an off day.:)

geeker2 07-30-2016 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rileyoriley (Post 1071513)
Didn't look like herself in post parade. Everybody's entitled to an off day.:)

She looked uncomfortable on the lead...:(

Seattleallstar 07-30-2016 08:06 PM

zenyatta never had one

Rileyoriley 07-30-2016 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar (Post 1071521)
zenyatta never had one

She was one of the rare ones that showed up every time.:tro::)

Rileyoriley 07-30-2016 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by geeker2 (Post 1071520)
She looked uncomfortable on the lead...:(

Sometimes you feel like going to work, sometimes you don't.:)

RHT2004 07-30-2016 08:31 PM

She's getting older and lost to a better horse today.
Stellar Wind should have won the Distaff and is still improving. She's the leader of the division out west moving forward.

geeker2 07-30-2016 08:41 PM

Stevens: "No excuse. Dick (Mandella) had the best quote, 'It's a lot easier to leave them in the barn.'"

geeker2 07-30-2016 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rileyoriley (Post 1071523)
Sometimes you feel like going to work, sometimes you don't.:)

especially when it's warm out :p

Rileyoriley 07-30-2016 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by geeker2 (Post 1071537)
especially when it's warm out :p

You know it!!!:D Don't mind working in sub-zero weather but HATE summer humidity and heat!

Seattleallstar 07-30-2016 09:09 PM

still would like to think the Beholder who destroyed males in the Pac Classic, would still be able to hold off a Stellar Wind on an off day

Seattleallstar 07-30-2016 09:14 PM

Victor Espinoza has bitch slapped Gary Stevens twice on the biggest stage in two straight weeks. Maybe he is too old to ride now.

ateamstupid 07-30-2016 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by geeker2 (Post 1071534)
Stevens: "No excuse. Dick (Mandella) had the best quote, 'It's a lot easier to leave them in the barn.'"

Which I assume they'll do for the Pacific Classic now.

10 pnt move up 07-30-2016 09:48 PM

Not sure why Gary kind of rated her like that, i mean she let that horse be glued to her hip, i would rather see her go faster and if Victor wants to try a style that is completely new to SW then let go, but basically turning it into a sprint to the finish, with a horse who can make up lengths in the stretch was a bad plan. Took away her speed IMO, took away her advantage.

ateamstupid 07-30-2016 11:56 PM

He didn't "rate her", he just let her do her thing and banked on her being best. If he sends her and she opens up 5 and gets tired people are killing him then. Victor had a great ride, but Stevens didn't do anything wrong. The horse got beat on the square by a nice filly.

This obsession by racing fans of grasping for an excuse any time a big favorite gets beat is a disease. Beholder lost by a half-length to a fellow champion. It happens. She didn't have a "bad day" and Gary Stevens certainly didn't get her beat. She just lost narrowly to a fellow good horse in a terrific race. It doesn't need to be microanalyzed beyond that.

Dunbar 07-31-2016 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 1071554)
Beholder lost by a half-length to a fellow champion. It happens. She didn't have a "bad day" and Gary Stevens certainly didn't get her beat. She just lost narrowly to a fellow good horse in a terrific race. It doesn't need to be microanalyzed beyond that.

Very, very good stuff. (and I say that as a huge fan of Beholder.)

We've gotten to see some outstanding horse races in the past week. CC vs Dortmund, Songbird vs Carina Mia, and now Beholder vs Stellar Wind.

cakes44 07-31-2016 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 1071546)
Which I assume they'll do for the Pacific Classic now.

Very little doubt about that. Hate to say it, but I could definitely see a fake "injury" coming out of this race followed by immediate retirement. Hope I'm wrong.

Kasept 07-31-2016 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 1071573)
Very little doubt about that. Hate to say it, but I could definitely see a fake "injury" coming out of this race followed by immediate retirement. Hope I'm wrong.

Right. Because that's how Richard Mandella and B. Wayne Hughes operate.

cakes44 07-31-2016 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1071576)
Right. Because that's how Richard Mandella and B. Wayne Hughes operate.

Do you believe she's going to the Pacific Classic as scheduled?


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