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Kasept 04-17-2013 09:36 AM

5/3 (CD) 139th KY OAKS: Flashy Gray KO'd with foot bruise
 
1. Beholder (Mandella)
2. Rose to Gold (Santoro)
3. Unlimited Budget (Pletcher)
4. Dreaming of Julia (Pletcher)
5. Close Hatches (Mott)
6. Flashy Gray (Mott)
7. Princess of Sylmar (Pletcher)
8. Midnight Lucky (Baffert)
9. Silsita (Pletcher)
10. Seaneen Girl (Flint)
11. Pure Fun (McPeek)

Kasept 04-18-2013 09:55 AM

Manuka Honey not going..

blackthroatedwind 04-18-2013 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 924103)
Manuka Honey not going..

That opens things up for last.

Kasept 04-18-2013 03:00 PM

Emollient to the Black-Eyed Susan..

RockHardTen1985 04-18-2013 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 924163)
Emollient to the Black-Eyed Susan..

Major contender for me. Very disappointed.

dpkovalesky 04-18-2013 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 924163)
Emollient to the Black-Eyed Susan..

Is this suppose to tell us that close hatches is doing pretty well? or more or less trying to keep them apart?

blackthroatedwind 04-18-2013 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dpkovalesky (Post 924240)
Is this suppose to tell us that close hatches is doing pretty well? or more or less trying to keep them apart?

It's more about Mott hearing that PG1985 liked her.

RockHardTen1985 04-18-2013 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 924242)
It's more about Mott hearing that PG1985 liked her.

Stop. You have been on her since Saratoga. I just think she's a nice horse. If Julia doesn't repeat that Gulfstream race Emollient had a chance just like 4-5 others do.

freddymo 04-19-2013 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 924244)
Stop. You have been on her since Saratoga. I just think she's a nice horse. If Julia doesn't repeat that Gulfstream race Emollient had a chance just like 4-5 others do.

Name the last horse that was trained by Pletcher who repeated a winter Florida performance and lived to tell about it.

A better idea would be for DrugS to create a list for Pletcher trainee's that have ran significantly higher BSF/TG Sheet figs at GP and never replicated them.

Some of these owned by E Robshams and friends come to mind,Quality Road, etc.

RockHardTen1985 04-19-2013 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 924261)
Name the last horse that was trained by Pletcher who repeated a winter Florida performance and lived to tell about it.

A better idea would be for DrugS to create a list for Pletcher trainee's that have ran significantly higher BSF/TG Sheet figs at GP and never replicated them.

Some of these owned by E Robshams and friends come to mind,Quality Road, etc.

Fred I'm against Julia. If they have that 2 day pick 3 I'll be using Unlimited Budget, Close Hatches and Midnight Lucky. I'll wait until tomorrow to decide about Pure Clan. Budget being my A. I really like her.

my miss storm cat 04-23-2013 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 923988)
7. Princess of Sylmar (Pletcher)

I doubt anyone beats DoJ but I do like this filly a lot.

(I know they weren't spectacular fields but I think she'll go off at huge odds and will be sneaky good). :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZu7lm205Oo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0T3pQgFSve4

DaTruth 04-23-2013 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 924189)
Major contender for me. Very disappointed.

I'm sure they took that into consideration.

tywizard 04-23-2013 12:57 PM

Looking at PPs for Oaks contenders....Nothing but 1s and 2s for just about every horse at every call. 10w going into the first turn?!:eek:

I'm of the opinion that the fastest horse should and typically does win a race but it's hard to ignore the pace scenario here. It is possible that everyone tries to rate and a horse like Beholder is able to get a rather easy lead....

If the race were to collapse is Unlimited Budget the most likely beneficiary? That's my initial thought.

pweizer 04-23-2013 03:17 PM

Wouldn't Pure Fun be the one to pick them up if it does collapse?

Paul

NTamm1215 04-23-2013 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by pweizer (Post 924943)
Wouldn't Pure Fun be the one to pick them up if it does collapse?

Paul

One would think, but I'm afraid she McPeeked.

pweizer 04-23-2013 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 924944)
One would think, but I'm afraid she McPeeked.

She has run a very unconventional campaign this year but is certainly talented. She should get a dream set up and will be a huge price. Maybe she isn't the same horse she was at two but I am intrigued.

Paul

outofthebox 04-23-2013 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by pweizer (Post 924959)
She has run a very unconventional campaign this year but is certainly talented. She should get a dream set up and will be a huge price. Maybe she isn't the same horse she was at two but I am intrigued.

Paul

I agree. Her campaign with the two poly races will definitely clutter her form. I don't really understand the logic behind her placement this year, but it could have been McPeek fell behind schedule this winter at GP. I laughed when he was touting her in DRF for the Lexington...

3kings 04-23-2013 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by pweizer (Post 924959)
She has run a very unconventional campaign this year but is certainly talented. She should get a dream set up and will be a huge price. Maybe she isn't the same horse she was at two but I am intrigued.

Paul

Because of the pace senerio I think she will take more action than would normally be justified, at least in the multirace sequences.

lemoncrush 04-23-2013 09:01 PM

I get that the pace dynamics could collapse the race, but I have a hard time envisioning Beholder, Dreaming of Julia, Midnight Lucky and Unlimited Budget ALL sh*tting the bed in this race and giving Pure Fun a chance to steal it.

This is going to be a fun race.

RockHardTen1985 04-23-2013 10:18 PM

Unless everyone else grabs Beholder doesn't have a prayer in the Oaks. She has got soft trip after soft trip and beat absolutely nothing since the Breeders Cup.


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