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Riot 01-17-2012 05:57 PM

Over 1 Million signatures obtained to recall WI Gov. Scott Walker
 
It's not a good thing to campaign on austerity, then go ahead and needlessly bust unions who have agreed to your austerity measures. Many, many Wisconsin citizens are that upset with this Governor and his legislature. Citizens have been awakened, and are standing up for owning their own democracy, taking it back from politicians.



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Madison - Democrats and organizers filed petitions Tuesday afternoon with more than a million signatures as they sought to force a recall election against Gov. Scott Walker - a massive number that seems to cement a historic recall election against him for later this year.

It would mark the first such gubernatorial recall in state history and would be only the third gubernatorial recall election in U.S. history. Organizers Tuesday also handed in 845,000 signatures against Lt. Gov. Rebecca Kleefisch as well as petitions against four GOP state senators including Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald of Juneau.

The sheer number of signatures being filed against Walker - nearly as many as the total votes cast for the governor in November 2010 and almost twice as many as those needed to trigger a recall election - ensure the election will be held, said officials with the state Democratic Party and United Wisconsin, the group that launched the Walker recall.

"It is beyond legal challenge," said Ryan Lawler, vice chairman of United Wisconsin.

Walker, who was raising campaign money in New York City on Tuesday, declined an interview but released a statement saying he looked forward to talking to voters about how he had eliminated a $3 billion budget deficit over two years without leaning heavily on tax increases.

Walker was scheduled to hold a New York City fundraiser Tuesday afternoon hosted by Maurice Greenberg, the founder of financial services corporation American International Group, according to a copy of the fundraising solicitation posted on the website of the New York Daily News.

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http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepo...137489833.html

nebrady 01-17-2012 07:08 PM

Bunch of crybabies!
 
Lets tell the truth about these socalled recallers! First of all they are a bunch of crybabies. They didn't win the election so their precious little train was derailed and now their mad. The train would have been a financial disaster. Props to walker stopping the stupid money train. Second this recall is a joke! It will cost the state 9 million. If they really cared about the state, they would wait 4 years for an election and quit crying. Third its not walker's fault that he had to made hard decisions to balance a deficit that has been growing because doyle a democrat didn't have the nerve to try to do anything about! Lastly the people who should be recalled are the democrats who ran out of the state because they didn't agree with the process. Plus props for walker to break up these to powerful unions who have spent money to overturn a fair election. In the end walker will win this dumbass recall because people in wisconsin will see that he is doing the job he was elected to do!

Clip-Clop 01-18-2012 10:26 AM

This is what will happen to any Gov. trying to prevent their state from becoming NJ (prior to Christie) and leaving them with no other options than Christie like action to prevent them from dying. The prior administrations in NJ were so in the pocket of the unions there was nothing he could do. Walkers measures look more preventative than reactionary, as Christie's were. He could (still?) save the state from a fate like NJ.

travelling_vic 01-18-2012 10:27 AM

throw the fascist bum out.

good old Snot Walker implemented the rightie mantra and is going to pay dearly for it.

Cannon Shell 01-18-2012 11:08 AM

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.1007885

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/g...icle-1.1007800

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/c...icle-1.1007798


http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/g...icle-1.1007796

Funny Gov Cuomo is doing many of the same things in NY that Walker did in WI yet where is the outcry? Where are the marches? Where is the outrage?

Coach Pants 01-18-2012 11:12 AM

Well he's got a D by his name. What do you expect from good slaves?

Danzig 01-18-2012 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 832312)
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.1007885

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/g...icle-1.1007800

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/c...icle-1.1007798


http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/g...icle-1.1007796

Funny Gov Cuomo is doing many of the same things in NY that Walker did in WI yet where is the outcry? Where are the marches? Where is the outrage?

how much greater the sin when another commits it.

wiphan 01-18-2012 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 832201)
It's not a good thing to campaign on austerity, then go ahead and needlessly bust unions who have agreed to your austerity measures. Many, many Wisconsin citizens are that upset with this Governor and his legislature. Citizens have been awakened, and are standing up for owning their own democracy, taking it back from politicians.


Wow! They got a million signatures. That is incredible. Just wait to see the fraud that will be exposed with these signatures. It is going to be very interesting. The people collecting these signatures had no boundaries and no ethics. They showed up at a local function where we took our kids to see Santa and his reindeer. You should have seen the looks they got. Fortunately they realized that no one wanted them there and they left within 20 mins. They will have enough to force a recall election at the tune of $9+ million in wasted tax payer money.

So what is going to happen when Walker wins again?

Ocala Mike 01-18-2012 01:41 PM

Over 1 Million signatures obtained to recall WI Gov. Scott Walker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wiphan (Post 832334)

So what is going to happen when Walker wins again?

A recount!


Ocala Mike

wiphan 01-18-2012 01:43 PM

:tro:
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Originally Posted by Ocala Mike (Post 832335)
A recount!


Ocala Mike

Nice. The silent majority of WI will speak again and walker will win!

Ocala Mike 01-18-2012 01:52 PM

Over 1 Million signatures obtained to recall WI Gov. Scott Walker
 
Yeah, I guess 900,000 or so of those signatures were phony, right?
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Put a fork in Walker.


Ocala Mike

wiphan 01-18-2012 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ocala Mike (Post 832338)
Yeah, I guess 900,000 or so of those signatures were phony, right?
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Put a fork in Walker.


Ocala Mike

Just because you can get enough people to sign a recall petition with no proof of age, residency, etc doesn't mean that they will actually show up and vote, never mind the fact that more people voted for Walker than signed the recall petition. Good luck. I think this spells doom for the democrats when they lose. Nationally the democratic party didn't want this, but the unions fought for it and they had no choice. Should be fun....

dagolfer33 01-18-2012 02:36 PM

I surmise by the thread starter this bum is a republican right??? This just seems like more partisan politics from Riot. :rolleyes:

dellinger63 01-18-2012 02:45 PM

This guy is the first politician from either party to put the taxpayer's interest ahead of the patronage army known as the Public Sector workforce.

Riot can't handle the truth. At least not the truth about employment numbers in WI.

Walker will win by a larger margin the second time around.

Guaranteed!!!

wiphan 01-18-2012 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 832351)
This guy is the first politician from either party to put the taxpayer's interest ahead of the patronage army known as the Public Sector workforce.

Riot can't handle the truth. At least not the truth about employment numbers in WI.

Walker will win by a larger margin the second time around.

Guaranteed!!!

Hopefully Barrett runs against him. This bill board is along I-94 heading into Milwaukee

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dellinger63 01-18-2012 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by wiphan (Post 832354)
Hopefully Barrett runs against him. This bill board is along I-94 heading into Milwaukee

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awesome but how true. Milwaukee could even save millions more if only they'd get out of their teachers' healthcare plan with the union, like most of the rest of the State, who already did and are already saving millions.

Riot 01-18-2012 03:46 PM

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepo...137489833.html

Recall expert Joshua Spivak, a senior fellow at the Hugh L. Carey Institute for Government Reform at Wagner College in New York, said that, including state Senate recalls from last year, no state in American history has held as many recall elections for state office as Wisconsin seems set to have in 2011 and 2012.

"Wisconsin is really, completely a total anomaly," Spivak said.

In the two other recall elections for governors in history, California Gov. Gray Davis was defeated in 2003 and North Dakota Gov. Lynn Frazier was defeated in 1921.

Spivak said the signatures for Walker are almost certain to hold up. To force a recall election against Walker and Kleefisch, 540,208 valid signatures are needed for each - a figure equivalent to 25% of all the votes cast in the November 2010 election that put Walker in office.

Democrats said they submitted almost as many signatures as the votes that Walker received - 1,128,900 votes, or 52.3% of the vote in 2010 - and about the same amount as his unsuccessful Democratic opponent, Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett, who got 1,004,300 votes, or 46.5%.

The 1 million signatures amount to about one-third of the 3.3 million registered voters in the state
and one-quarter of the 4.4 million Wisconsin residents eligible to vote.

Riot 01-18-2012 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dagolfer33 (Post 832348)
I surmise by the thread starter this bum is a republican right??? This just seems like more partisan politics from Riot. :rolleyes:

The bum is a Republican, yes. A man who campaigned saying one thing, then did another. The wholly-owned political puppet of the Koch Brothers, working only to try and pass the ALEC agenda. A sad man who, on the day a historic number of recall petitions were submitted against him, was in New York begging for more out-of-state money - half of Walker's financial support for his recall comes from out of town - from the former head of the disgraced AIG to support his recall fight.

Riot 01-18-2012 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wiphan (Post 832334)
Wow! They got a million signatures. That is incredible. Just wait to see the fraud that will be exposed with these signatures. It is going to be very interesting.

What percentage of signatures do you think will be disallowed from the Walker recall petitions?

(Walker recall only, not the five other recalls also submitted. Not the Republican Senate majority leader Fitzgerald, the three other Republican state senators under recall now, or Lt. Governor Klefish now under recall too)

I'll guess, based upon the massive pre-vetting they did as signatures collected, and before they were turned into the GAB, less than 5% will be disallowed, probably more like 1-3%

What is your guess?

Riot 01-18-2012 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 832351)
Riot can't handle the truth. At least not the truth about employment numbers in WI.

You are the one maintaining, with no proof, that the Federal Labor Bureau's and Census Bureau's job statistics in Wisconsin are false. Not me.


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