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Kasept 05-13-2012 02:30 PM

5/18 (PIM): B/E Susan (G2), PIM Special (G3), 5 undercard stakes
 
6th (2:34) Skipat S.

6 Furlongs | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Romantic Cuvee Camacho E 118 LA
2 Red's Round Table Russell S 118 LA
3 Valiant Passion Velazquez J R 118 L
4 Bold Affair Castellano A Jr 120 LA
5 Afleet Lass Napravnik R 118 LA
6 Promise Me a Cat Castellano J J 118 L
7 It's Me Mom Martinez W 124 LA



8th (3:39) Miss Preakness S.

6 Furlongs | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Colonial Empress Nakatani C S 116 L
2 Painted Woman Leparoux J R 116 LA
3 Ageless Garcia Luis 116 L
4 Millionreasonswhy Velazquez J R 122 LA
5 Say a Novena Trujillo E 122 L
6 Gypsy Robin Garcia J A 122 L
7 Agave Kiss Dominguez R A 122 LA
8 Singlet Castellano J J 122 LA
9 Defy Gravity Napravnik R 122 LA



9th (4:14) Jim McKay Turf Sprint S.

5 Furlongs (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Birdie Beats Par Bisono J 118 L
2 Zeb Napravnik R 118 LA
3 Regal Revenge Dominguez R A 118 L
4 Cactus Son Rocco J S Jr 118 L
5 Awakino Cat Castro E 118 LA
6 Steady Warrior Castro E 118 LA
7 Super Chunky Franklin M 118 LA
8 Ricky's Lite Bisono J 118 LA
9 Disco Dandy Karamanos H A 118 L
10 Ju Jitsu Jax Carmouche K 118 LA
11 Ben's Cat Russell S 120 LA
12 Fiddlers Patriot Velazquez J R 118 LA



10th (4:46) Black-Eyed Susan S. (G2)

1 1/8 Miles | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $300,000

1 Glinda the Good Nakatani C S 122 LA
2 Disposablepleasure Castellano J J 122 L
3 Welcome Guest Dominguez R A 116 L
4 Mamma Kimbo Smith M E 122 L
5 Oaks Lily Leparoux J R 116 LA
6 Plum Castellano A Jr 116 LA
7 In Lingerie Velazquez J R 122 LA
8 Wildcat's Smile Napravnik R 116 L
9 Zucchini Flower Russell S 122 LA



11th (5:20) Very One S.

5 Furlongs (Turf) | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Sensible Lady Perez X 114 LA
2 You Need Me Perez X 118 LA
3 Colony Club Boyce F 118 L
4 Weeper Chaves M 118 LA
5 High Quality Castellano J J 118 LA
6 Inspired Velazquez J R 120 LA
7 Jazzy Idea Dominguez R A 118 L
8 Halo Hollie Santiago Javier 118 LA
9 Well Deserved Leparoux J R 118 LA
10 Miss Oil Castellano A Jr 118 LA
11 Bounding Bi Elliott S 118 LA



12th (5:51) Pimlico Special S. (G3)

1 3/16 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $300,000

1 Toby's Corner Castro E 118 LA
2 Endorsement Garcia M 124
3 Cease Napravnik R 124 L
4 Hymn Book Velazquez J R 124 L
5 Cherokee Artist Santiago V 118 LA
6 Nehro Nakatani C S 118 LA
7 Mission Impazible Castellano J J 118 L
8 Yawanna Twist Luzzi M J 118 L
9 Alternation Quinonez L S 124 L
10 Eighttofasttocatch Russell S 124 LA



13th (6:20) Hilltop S.

1 1/16 Miles (Turf) | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Anakindalika (GB) Joyce J 116 LA
2 Seanchai Carmouche K 116 Blk-Off LA
3 Coup Velazquez J R 116 L
4 Theatricality Russell S 116 LA
5 Proud Pearl Russell S 116 LA
6 Nuffsaid Nuffsaid Dominguez R A 116 LA
7 Ainsley Piermarini T 116 L
8 Ok Listen Up Dunkelberger T L 116 LA
9 Appealing Cat Velazquez J R 116 L
10 Anna Sophia Smith M E 116 LA

Sightseek 05-13-2012 06:11 PM

The revived Pimlico Special drew an ok field relatively speaking..

blackthroatedwind 05-13-2012 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sightseek (Post 860713)
The revived Pimlico Special drew an ok field relatively speaking..

I agree. Excellent race.

Alan07 05-13-2012 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sightseek (Post 860713)
The revived Pimlico Special drew an ok field relatively speaking..

revived in name only.

blackthroatedwind 05-13-2012 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan07 (Post 860728)
revived in name only.

What is your point? I'm honestly curious. This is an excellent betting race and Pimlico should be applauded for addressing the weakness of last year's Preakness weekend Stakes. But not you. You have to make a snide comment. To what end?

NTamm1215 05-13-2012 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 860735)
What is your point? I'm honestly curious. This is an excellent betting race and Pimlico should be applauded for addressing the weakness of last year's Preakness weekend Stakes. But not you. You have to make a snide comment. To what end?

Is it even worth replying? Anyone who has a problem with that field spends far more time on message boards b.itching about racing than betting and caring about racing.

pweizer 05-13-2012 08:35 PM

This is a much better card than the one Churchill produced two weeks prior.

Paul

Alan07 05-13-2012 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 860742)
Is it even worth replying? Anyone who has a problem with that field spends far more time on message boards b.itching about racing than betting and caring about racing.

That wasn't the point. This is the old William Donald Schaefer stake.

dylbert 05-13-2012 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan07 (Post 860765)
That wasn't the point. This is the old William Donald Schaefer stake.

Pimlico Special has only been contested in one of last five years. Only way this race received its Grade 3 status is renaming another race. Yes, it is nice betting race. But, it is not Grade 1 version won by likes of Cigar, Skip Away, and Invasor in past years.

booner 05-13-2012 11:47 PM

Nice card. Will like to see how Agave Kiss does in the Miss Preakness.

Pimlico Special is a good betting race. Will be keeping an eye on Endorsement.....

pmayjr 05-14-2012 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pweizer (Post 860750)
This is a much better card than the one Churchill produced two weeks prior.

Paul

I hope you're right (I haven't looked at it too in depth). Eventhough I got killed on the Derby undercard, I thought those fields on paper were pretty damn good.

pba1817 05-14-2012 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by booner (Post 860771)
Nice card. Will like to see how Agave Kiss does in the Miss Preakness.

Unless Ward's horse breaks super clean, Agave Kiss is gonna be free and clear up front by daylight....

pba1817 05-14-2012 02:20 AM

I think Cease is sitting on a big effort coming into the Pimlico Special.

cmorioles 05-14-2012 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan07 (Post 860765)
That wasn't the point. This is the old William Donald Schaefer stake.

Well, it is a furlong longer.

Merlinsky 05-14-2012 04:16 AM

Any chance they can squeeze the Pimlico Special (I guess formerly known as the shorter distanced Schaefer) to a G2 for next year and bring back the Schaefer as a G3? I'd hate to just swap one out to get the other back so I'm gonna hope the horses in the field do well the rest of 2012--assuming that's what Pimlico even wants since the higher the grading, the higher the required minimum purse. You'd think they'd want it back in all it's G1 glory if they can afford it.

I've got fond memories of the Special from Strike the Gold who won it the first time I saw it on tv. He was the first horse I ever picked to win the Derby. I was a fan of all sports equine before so why I didn't watch the Derby prior to that, no idea. Of course, who can forget the initial Pimlico Special as the match up between Seabiscuit and the "18 hand" *ehem* War Admiral.

NTamm1215 05-14-2012 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan07 (Post 860765)
That wasn't the point. This is the old William Donald Schaefer stake.

Who cares? It could be called the Steve Byk Handicap for all I care. It has a larger purse and new distance a la the Pimlico Special. Oh, and most importantly, it's a really good race.

RolloTomasi 05-14-2012 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merlinsky (Post 860778)
Any chance they can squeeze the Pimlico Special (I guess formerly known as the shorter distanced Schaefer) to a G2 for next year and bring back the Schaefer as a G3? I'd hate to just swap one out to get the other back so I'm gonna hope the horses in the field do well the rest of 2012--assuming that's what Pimlico even wants since the higher the grading, the higher the required minimum purse. You'd think they'd want it back in all it's G1 glory if they can afford it.

Do they really need to run the Schaefer if they can maintain the Pimlico Special's purse? Seems like it would be kind of crowded given the woes of the track and the sparseness of the older horse division.

They used to run the Pimlico Special a week before the Preakness. Ideally, it would be a stand alone event that helps kick off Preakness week, not some undercard race. As a means of promoting its popularity, it would be cool to have some sort of bonus attached to competing in both the Preakness and the Pimlico Special in consecutive years. Many Preakness alumni have done so previous (Alysheba, Bet Twice, Cryptoclearance, Summer Squall, Unbridled, Strike The Gold, Real Quiet, Concern, Free House, Best Pal, Midway Road, Skip Away, Eddington, Tejano Run, Star Standard, Brian's Time).

Danzig 05-14-2012 01:32 PM

i agree with several others, the pimlico special looks like a good race.

and to heck with the WDS-that guy was a douche. still remember when he referenced the 'sh**house eastern shore'.

slotdirt 05-15-2012 09:03 AM

I like how they honored William Donald Schaefer's 2011 death by renaming his race. First sir Barton, now William Donald Schaefer. You are on notice, Barbara Fritchie and George "General George" Washington.

Kasept 05-15-2012 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slotdirt (Post 861014)
I like how they honored William Donald Schaefer's 2011 death by renaming his race. First sir Barton, now William Donald Schaefer. You are on notice, Barbara Fritchie and George "General George" Washington.

You forgot the paving over of Hirsch Jacobs in favor Chick Lang.


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