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robfla 07-21-2010 02:35 PM

7/24 (MTH): Lady's Secret S. feat. Rachel Alexandra
 
11th (5:50)

Lady's Secret S.

1 1/8 Miles | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $400,000

Post # Horse Jockey Weight Claim Price Equip. Med.
1 Stage Trick Trujillo E 118 L
2 Queen Martha Bravo J 118 L
3 Ask the Moon Rose J 118 L
4 Hark Marquez C H Jr 118 L
5 Rachel Alexandra Borel C H 123 L
6 Fabulous Babe Fragoso P 118 L
7 Yes She's a Lady Castro E 120 L

robfla 07-21-2010 02:37 PM

I haven't heard of any of these horse ( Rachel excluded )

Sightseek 07-21-2010 02:38 PM

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trash can

NTamm1215 07-21-2010 02:40 PM

It's an absolutely pitiful field, but there are a few who have some speed.

NT

knickslions2 07-21-2010 02:41 PM

and yet people still criticize who Zenyatta runs against. I can find a trotter to beat this field.

RockHardTen1985 07-21-2010 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 672079)
It's an absolutely pitiful field, but there are a few who have some speed.

NT

What does that mean? She should get a Mother Goose like trip and win by 25... Ughhh only if Icon Project was still in training.

Sightseek 07-21-2010 02:44 PM

Chuck,
I think next time you can't get one of Bob's horses entered you should call up Monmouth and let them know that while you may not be running Rachel Alexandra, you're bringing Mr. Chicago and you'd like your own race carded.

NTamm1215 07-21-2010 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 672081)
What does that mean? She should get a Mother Goose like trip and win by 25... Ughhh only if Icon Project was still in training.

Hopefully she's reversed the trend but the confidence that there was last year when Rachel took on her own sex does not exist this year.

That being said, she could probably win the race if they gave those other crows a 70 yd head start.

NT

Nascar1966 07-21-2010 02:56 PM

Im sure Rachel will win if any of us were the jockey as long as we stay in the saddle.

RockHardTen1985 07-21-2010 03:10 PM

Well Zenyatta keeps winning, so Im guessing in order to see them together Rachel needs to win, lets not forget the 2 shitty defeats to start the year. Lets also not forget the 2 horses who beat her, both came back to lose. Hopefully Rachel wins by 20 and since the Z camp won commit to Del Mar maybe serious talks about the Personal Ensign will heat up, especially with the detention barn being gone now. The same connections had a bad time with Giacomo in the detention barn, a few years back in the Belmont.

Coach Pants 07-21-2010 03:14 PM

Jess might as well die. All he really had going for him was the mirage of "sportsmanship."

Both connections are selfish and have hurt the sport more than helped it. It's absolutely embarrassing that two of the best horses in training have pansies for owners.

RockHardTen1985 07-21-2010 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 672098)
Jess might as well die. All he really had going for him was the mirage of "sportsmanship."

Both connections are selfish and have hurt the sport more than helped it. It's absolutely embarrassing that two of the best horses in training have pansies for owners.

I agree with that, but it seems like most people only want to knock Z's connections. No one should ever forget, she did show up at Oaklawn.

Coach Pants 07-21-2010 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 672101)
I agree with that, but it seems like most people only want to knock Z's connections. No one should ever forget, she did show up at Oaklawn.

And that is supposed to make up for their cowardly campaign last year and the rest of this year?

Please.

RockHardTen1985 07-21-2010 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 672104)
And that is supposed to make up for their cowardly campaign last year and the rest of this year?

Please.

They did send Curlin to the BCC, why not send her? Are they the same horse? My opinion all along is Zenyatta is superior, but I agree the connections of both are pitiful.

Dahoss 07-21-2010 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 672097)
Well Zenyatta keeps winning, so Im guessing in order to see them together Rachel needs to win, lets not forget the 2 shitty defeats to start the year. Lets also not forget the 2 horses who beat her, both came back to lose. Hopefully Rachel wins by 20 and since the Z camp won commit to Del Mar maybe serious talks about the Personal Ensign will heat up, especially with the detention barn being gone now. The same connections had a bad time with Giacomo in the detention barn, a few years back in the Belmont.

Realistically what do you think the chances of Zenyatta shipping to Saratoga are? Would 0-5% be fair?

RockHardTen1985 07-21-2010 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 672129)
Realistically what do you think the chances of Zenyatta shipping to Saratoga are? Would 0-5% be fair?

Realistically the chances are thin, but like Fat Man says at this point she does not have to ship. She is far ahead of Rachel IMO for any award right now. This race Rachel is running in on Saturday does nothing as far as HOY or Older Filly n Mare. Maybe the Beldame is more likely, but if Rachel does not continue to win there would be no point of even discussing it, and thats my only point. Back to HOY, thats QR to lose.

Dahoss 07-21-2010 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 672130)
Realistically the chances are thin, but like Fat Man says at this point she does not have to ship. She is far ahead of Rachel IMO for any award right now. This race Rachel is running in on Saturday does nothing as far as HOY or Older Filly n Mare. Maybe the Beldame is more likely, but if Rachel does not continue to win there would be no point of even discussing it, and thats my only point. Back to HOY, thats QR to lose.

So basically it's a waste of time to even bring it up?

Cannon Shell 07-21-2010 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sightseek (Post 672082)
Chuck,
I think next time you can't get one of Bob's horses entered you should call up Monmouth and let them know that while you may not be running Rachel Alexandra, you're bringing Mr. Chicago and you'd like your own race carded.

I don't want to get banned

Cannon Shell 07-21-2010 04:34 PM

The over/under on starters is 5 1/2

ateamstupid 07-21-2010 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 672080)
and yet people still criticize who Zenyatta runs against. I can find a trotter to beat this field.

You may find this hard to understand, but Rachel Alexandra's weak schedule this year doesn't, in any way, excuse or validate Zenyatta's equally pathetic campaign.


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