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Kasept 11-16-2015 07:41 PM

Clark H. shapes up as superb late season test
 
THURS 10th (3:53) River City H. (G3)

1 1/8 Miles (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Dac Albarado R J 112 L
2 Kalamos Lezcano A 115 L
3 Heart to Heart Leparoux J R 121 L
4 Are You Kidding Me Garcia Alan 123 L
5 Perfect Title Santana R Jr 115 L
6 Messi (GER) Velazquez J R 119 L
7 Knights Nation Borel C H 115 L
8 Gabriel's Cat Lebron V 112 L
9 Thatcher Street Hernandez B J Jr 115 L



THURS 11th (4:22) Falls City H. (G2)

1 1/8 Miles | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $200,000

1 Tiz So Sweet Velazquez J R 115 L
2 Call Pat Rocco J S Jr 116 L
3 Salama Landeros C 113 L
4 Needmore Flattery Colon L H 116 L
5 Frivolous Court J K 122 L
6 Ahh Chocolate Hernandez B J Jr 114 L
7 No Fault of Mine Albarado R J 112 L
8 Gamblers Rose Bridgmohan S X 112 L
9 Birdatthewire Lanerie C J 118 L
10 Montana Native Hill C 114 L
11 Theogony Leparoux J R 117 L
12 Chide Mena M 116 L
13 Pretty Fancy Doyle S 114 L

blackthroatedwind 11-16-2015 08:42 PM

What do you think the probables for the Frivolous/Mr Z exacta box will be?

Holybull1 11-17-2015 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1048010)
What do you think the probables for the Frivolous/Mr Z exacta box will be?

1 MILLION dollars?

dylbert 11-17-2015 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1048010)
What do you think the probables for the Frivolous/Mr Z exacta box will be?

One over infinity. Only hope for Mr. Z is getting new trainer and focusing on 7-8 furlong races. Saw him finish second in last year's Delta Jackpot. He just hasn't moved forward as 3YO. Another Lukas fail.

blackthroatedwind 11-17-2015 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dylbert (Post 1048017)
One over infinity. Only hope for Mr. Z is getting new trainer and focusing on 7-8 furlong races. Saw him finish second in last year's Delta Jackpot. He just hasn't moved forward as 3YO. Another Lukas fail.



He made over $650K in 2015, for career earnings of over $1.15 Million. How exactly is this a failure?

3kings 11-17-2015 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1048018)
He made over $650K in 2015, for career earnings of over $1.15 Million. How exactly is this a failure?

Would you agree his race placements weren't ideal?

blackthroatedwind 11-17-2015 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by 3kings (Post 1048019)
Would you agree his race placements weren't ideal?

The entire internet had him giving him rest after the Derby and Preakness. He won $400K in his next two starts. Who am I to cherry pick where he should or shouldn't have run?

10 pnt move up 11-17-2015 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1048018)
He made over $650K in 2015, for career earnings of over $1.15 Million. How exactly is this a failure?

where is the like button

run your horses trainers

ADJMK 11-17-2015 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1048018)
He made over $650K in 2015, for career earnings of over $1.15 Million. How exactly is this a failure?

Wish some of my horses had been failures like this.

Kasept 11-19-2015 03:02 AM

CR Trout's Shotgun Kowboy running..

dylbert 11-19-2015 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1048018)
He made over $650K in 2015, for career earnings of over $1.15 Million. How exactly is this a failure?

Yes, Mr. Z has earned some nice purse money. Great for owner/trainer.

Does Mr. Z have any shot in this suggested Clark field? Highly doubtful. Better spot might have been Delta Mile this Saturday. Right track, right distance, right class, and possible successful outcome.

I will gladly post picture of myself in dunce cap if Mr. Z wins Clark Handicap.

blackthroatedwind 11-19-2015 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dylbert (Post 1048128)
Yes, Mr. Z has earned some nice purse money. Great for owner/trainer.

Does Mr. Z have any shot in this suggested Clark field? Highly doubtful. Better spot might have been Delta Mile this Saturday. Right track, right distance, right class, and possible successful outcome.

I will gladly post picture of myself in dunce cap if Mr. Z wins Clark Handicap.

That has little to do with the original post of yours that I responded to. Nice deflection.

blackthroatedwind 11-19-2015 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1048125)
CR Trout's Shotgun Kowboy running..

But the internet stable managers have no problem with this.

Danzig 11-19-2015 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dylbert (Post 1048128)
Yes, Mr. Z has earned some nice purse money. Great for owner/trainer.

Does Mr. Z have any shot in this suggested Clark field? Highly doubtful. Better spot might have been Delta Mile this Saturday. Right track, right distance, right class, and possible successful outcome.

I will gladly post picture of myself in dunce cap if Mr. Z wins Clark Handicap.

At 2:
2nd Breeders' Futurity S. (G1,Kee,8.5f), Saratoga Special S. (G2,Sar,6.5f), Sanford S. (G3,SAR,6f), Delta Downs Jackpot S. (G3,DED,8f)
3rd Los Alamitos Futurity (G1,LRC,8.5f)
At 3:
Won Ohio Derby (Tdn,8.5f)
2nd Indiana Derby (G2,Ind,8.5f)
3rd Arkansas Derby (G1,OP,9f), Southwest S. (G3,OP,8.5f), Smarty Jones S. (OP,8f)


yes, he belongs in the field. the criticism imo is unwarranted.

Dunbar 11-19-2015 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 1048021)
where is the like button

run your horses trainers

:tro:

Kasept 11-22-2015 03:42 PM

11/26-27 (CD): Falls City (G2), River City (G3); Clark (G1), Cmnwlth (G3)
 
FRI 9th (4:35) Dream Supreme S.

6 Furlongs | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $80,000

1 House of Sole Santana R Jr 120 L
2 Willow Hills Jimenez A 120 L
3 Pearl Turn Garcia M 120 L
4 Spring Included Rocco J S Jr 122 L
5 Super Saks Albarado R J 118 L
6 Shanon Nicole Hernandez B J Jr 120 L
7 Miss Melinda Bridgmohan S X 120 L
8 Milam Lanerie C J 120 L
9 White Clover Leparoux J R 118 L



FRI 10th (5:05) Commonwealth Turf S. (G3)

1 1/16 Miles (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Nucifera Velazquez J R 118 L
2 Czar Smith M E 118 L
3 Almasty Court J K 118 L
4 Quality Bird Landeros C 118 L
5 Wayward Kitten Santana R Jr 118 L
6 Bullards Alley Pedroza M 118 L
7 Bucchero Bridgmohan S X 118 L
8 One Go All Go Leparoux J R 123 L
9 Nun the Less Albarado R J 120 L
10 Magic of Believing Lanerie C J 118 L
11 Granny's Kitten Garcia M 118 L
12 Saham Rocco J S Jr 123 L
13 Obsidian Splendor Sullivan C 118 L



FRI 11th (5:35) Clark H. (G1)

1 1/8 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $500,000

1 Keen Ice Lanerie C J 120 L
2 Looks to Spare Lebron V 113 L
3 Mr. Z Santana R Jr 114 L
4 Frivolous Court J K 115 L
5 Protonico Leparoux J R 117 L
6 Hoppertunity Garcia M 121 L
7 Shotgun Kowboy Berry M C 113 L
8 Effinex Smith M E 122 L
9 Race Day Velazquez J R 122 L

Danzig 11-24-2015 10:48 AM

dortmund is a scratch. didn't ship due to a quarter crack.

casp0555 11-24-2015 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1048537)
dortmund is a scratch. didn't ship due to a quarter crack.

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...clark-handicap

blackthroatedwind 11-24-2015 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by casp0555 (Post 1048565)

Jay Privman broke the story.

jnunan4759 11-24-2015 06:54 PM

Sad to see Dortmund out, was looking forward to him. However story was informative about a trainer and his methods. Baffert says he waits a few days after a crack and then looks at patching it. It's their method. The time frame didn't allow for him to make the race and he didn't change the way they do things. Good methods get good results, but maybe not this weekend. I'm looking forward to him this year. He was a very good 3YO and could be a very good 4 YO. If you are going to get hiccups, now is the time.

We can't forget Hoppertunity, who won this last year. I think he might get a bad rap because of expectations, but he's a good horse and has the record and earnings to show for it.


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