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Kasept 03-05-2014 01:55 PM

3/8 (TAM): Tampa Bay Derby (G2), Florida Oaks, Hillsborough (G3's)
 
9th (4:25) Hillsborough S. (G3)

About 1 1/8 Miles (Turf) | Fillies and Mares | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 Donna's Fly Girl Allen M 116 L
2 Waterway Run Lezcano J 120 L
3 Gulsary (IRE) Castellano J J 116 L
4 Cloud Scapes Rodriguez E D 120 L
5 Thecushmaker Pedroza B 116 L
6 Riposte (GB) Leparoux J R 122
7 E B Ryder Allen R D Jr 116 L
MTO Liberated Boulanger G 116 L
9 Enchanted Party Serpa A 116 L



10th (4:55) Florida Oaks (G3)

1 1/16 Miles (Turf) | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $200,000

1 Kitten Kaboodle Castellano J J 122 L
2 Interrupted Serpa A 116 L
3 Babe's Ruler Centeno D E 116 L
4 Jerry Love Leparoux J R 116 Blk-On L
5 Spangled Banner De La Cruz F 116
6 Runway Giant Allen R D Jr 116 L
7 Annulment Boulanger G 116 L
8 Duff One Wilson E 116 L
9 Istanford Rocco J S Jr 116 L
10 Miss Besilu Bridgmohan S X 116 L
11 Ready's Legend Prado E S 116 L
12 Testa Rossi (FR) Lezcano J 122 L
AE Resistivity Leparoux J R 116 L
AE Grand Elmendorf Gallardo A A 116 L



11th (5:25) Tampa Bay Derby (G2)

1 1/16 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $350,000

1 Ring Weekend Centeno D E 116 L
2 Surfing U S A Lezcano J 116 L
3 Matador Leparoux J R 116 L
4 Coltimus Prime Boulanger G 116 L
5 Conquest Titan Bridgmohan S X 116 L
6 Vinceremos Prado E S 120 L
7 East Hall Leyva J C 116 L
8 Cousin Stephen Castellano J J 116 L
9 Hy Kodiak Warrior Saez G 116 FTL
10 Tuscan Getaway Rocco J S Jr 116 L

RockHardTen1985 03-05-2014 04:56 PM

Plus the long awaited return of Bobbys Kitten, race 6. Allowance race w/ Castellano riding.

GPK 03-05-2014 08:11 PM

Amazingly coincidental that my first Saturday off from work in 3 months coincides with this card. Didn't see that coming :rolleyes:

RockHardTen1985 03-05-2014 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 968213)
Plus the long awaited return of Bobbys Kitten, race 6. Allowance race w/ Castellano riding.

Just now getting a chance to look at the pp's. He has legit competition in this race. Global View can run.

lemoncrush 03-05-2014 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 968191)
11th (5:25) Tampa Bay Derby (G2)

1 1/16 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $350,000

1 Ring Weekend Centeno D E 116 L
2 Surfing U S A Lezcano J 116 L
3 Matador Leparoux J R 116 L
4 Coltimus Prime Boulanger G 116 L
5 Conquest Titan Bridgmohan S X 116 L
6 Vinceremos Prado E S 120 L
7 East Hall Leyva J C 116 L
8 Cousin Stephen Castellano J J 116 L
9 Hy Kodiak Warrior Saez G 116 FTL
10 Tuscan Getaway Rocco J S Jr 116 L

After one pass through the PP's, this looks like a nice betting race.
And at first glance, I'm kind of interested in Hy Kodiak Warrior.
Especially since I don't think anyone coming out of the Sam Davis is going to win this.

letswastemoney 03-05-2014 10:53 PM

The old version of Conquest Titan would have a very favorable scenario here, as there aren't any dominant early speed horses. I'm wondering if they use a bit of his old speed just for this spot.

Jay Frederick 03-05-2014 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney (Post 968241)
The old version of Conquest Titan would have a very favorable scenario here, as there aren't any dominant early speed horses. I'm wondering if they use a bit of his old speed just for this spot.

Don't Surfin USA, Coltimus Prime and Tuscan Getaway have early speed?

letswastemoney 03-05-2014 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay Frederick (Post 968243)
Don't Surfin USA, Coltimus Prime and Tuscan Getaway have early speed?

I'm not too sure about Coltimus Prime's dirt speed, as the BRIS early paces figure for his synthetic races are just average. Maybe I'd expect the other two you mentioned to be dueling for the lead, if there is a duel, and maybe Cousin Stephen and Vinceremos.

The BRIS early pace figures for Conquest Titan's two dirt races before they switched styles are over 100. Right now, the best last race E1 early pace figure on BRIS is from Cousin Stephen at 93.

Jay Frederick 03-06-2014 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney (Post 968244)
I'm not too sure about Coltimus Prime's dirt speed, as the BRIS early paces figure for his synthetic races are just average. Maybe I'd expect the other two you mentioned to be dueling for the lead, if there is a duel, and maybe Cousin Stephen and Vinceremos.

The BRIS early pace figures for Conquest Titan's two dirt races before they switched styles are over 100. Right now, the best last race E1 early pace figure on BRIS is from Cousin Stephen at 93.

I can't see them messing with Conquest Titan's running style for this race.

Kasept 03-06-2014 08:13 AM

BRIS DERBY PP'S: http://www.brisnet.com/brisnet_promo...paBayDerby.pdf

pmayjr 03-07-2014 12:17 AM

I think there's plenty of early speed in this race which sets up perfect for Conquest Titan (not going out on a limb), but I think Ring Weekend might be sitting on a big one as well. This race isn't that strong, so I don't think he's in over his head.

theguarantee 03-07-2014 04:58 AM

I have a very high opinion of Conquest Titan. Think he'll be better at 1/8th to 1/4, but also think it was a wise move by Casse getting to Tampa. Kind of wish I didn't like him so much because this looks like a race where getting creative could get you paid. Vinceremos is a very :zz: horse to me. At face value I want to think he is a huge bet against...can't help but worry that he might just put it all together though. I kind of make this one Surfing USA or Conquest Titan depending on the pace scenario with East Hall and Hy Kodiak Cowboy the prices I give a bit of a shot.

GPK 03-07-2014 06:26 AM

Interrupted in the Oaks.

cakes44 03-07-2014 07:30 AM

Really excited about seeing two or three of these horses in the Kentucky Derby.

AlreadyHome 03-07-2014 09:05 AM

Bueler
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GPK (Post 968233)
Amazingly coincidental that my first Saturday off from work in 3 months coincides with this card. Didn't see that coming :rolleyes:

That's great:).enjoy your day off N have fun ,only in America.
Who do u like in the card@ TB

Rudeboyelvis 03-07-2014 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by GPK (Post 968408)
Interrupted in the Oaks.

This has all the makings of a trap race in the sequence... Testa Rossi is going to go off at 4-5 or worse and is no lock at all; Miss Bessilu will be 5-2 and not much better...I'm not thin here - obviously either can and should win, but I like a couple others in here and expect to be 4-5 deep in this leg

my miss storm cat 03-07-2014 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 968191)
11th (5:25) Tampa Bay Derby (G2)

10 Tuscan Getaway Rocco J S Jr 116 L

Hope he does well... :)

Mike A 03-07-2014 06:27 PM

The PPs for #7 East Hall show lifetime 2 wins, shows breaking maiden last Oct, and no wins since then. I need a little help with this, thanks

herkhorse 03-07-2014 06:31 PM

he had a second win via dq ( of Hy Kodiak Warrior )

Mike A 03-07-2014 06:38 PM

Thanks herkhorse , just saw that in the fine print of both horses running lines


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