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Kasept 04-09-2017 06:27 AM

Weekend Stakes Beyers: Paradise Woods 107; Irish War Cry 101
 
SA Santa Anita Derby (G1): Gormley 88 (Malibu Moon) J. Shirreffs/V. Espinoza
SA Santa Anita Oaks (G1): Paradise Woods 107 (Union Rags) R. Mandella/F. Prat
SA Royal Heroine S (G2): Hillhouse High 95 (Exchange Rate) R. Baltas/C. Nakatani
SA Echo Eddie S: Mr. Hinx 80 (Ministers Wild Cat) S. Miyadi/T. Baze
SA Evening Jewel S: S Y Sky 82 (Grazen) P. D'Amato/J. Talamo
SA Providencia S (G3): Sircat Sally 78 (Surf Cat) J. Hollendorfer/M. Smith
SA Santa Paula S: Union Strike 89 (Union Rags) M. Ruis/B. Blanc

KEE Blue Grass S (G2): Irap 93 (Tiznow) D. O'Neill/J. Leparoux
KEE Ashland S (G1): Sailor's Valentine 77 (Mizzen Mast) E. Kenneally/C. Lanerie
KEE Madison S (G1): Paulassilverlining 90 (Ghostzapper) C. Brown/J. Ortiz
KEE Commonwealth S (G3): Awesome Slew 102 (Awesome Again) M. Casse/J. Rosario
KEE Shakertown S (G2): Holding Gold 100 (Lonhro-AUS) M. Casse/J. Rosario
KEE Beaumont S (G3): Sweet Loretta 90 (Tapit) T. Pletcher/J. Castellano
KEE Transylvania S. (G3): Big Score 90 (Mr. Big) T. Yakteen/J. Castellano

AQU Wood Memorial S. (G2): Irish War Cry 101 (Curlin) H. Motion/R. Maragh
AQU Carter H (G1): Green Gratto 98 (Here's Zealous) G. Grant/C. DeCarlo
AQU Gazelle S (G2): Miss Sky Warrior 94 (First Samura) K. Breen/P. Lopez
AQU Bay Shore S (G3): Long Haul Bay 88 (Quality Road) C. Brown/M. Franco
AQU Excelsior S (G3) : Send It In 119 (Big Brown) T. Pletcher/J. Velazquez
AQU Distaff H (G3): Highway Star 93 (Girolamo) R. Ubillo/A. Arroyo
AQU Danger's Hour S: Macagone 102 (Artie Schiller) W. Mott/K. Carmouche

OP Carousel S: Illussion Artist 92 (Drosselmeyer) B. Cox/R. Eramia
OP Arkansas Breeders' S: Racer 74 (Jonesboro) T. Martin/J. Court

cakes44 04-09-2017 06:41 AM

Same variant for the entire card at Aqueduct?

Kasept 04-09-2017 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 1088882)
Same variant for the entire card at Aqueduct?

Will let NTamm answer officially, but would say yes. Weather was perfect all day. The heavy rain 24 hours earlier contributed to track being very fast.

NTamm1215 04-09-2017 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1088884)
Will let NTamm answer officially, but would say yes. Weather was perfect all day. The heavy rain 24 hours earlier contributed to track being very fast.

Yes. One variant for the card.

freddymo 04-09-2017 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 1088885)
Yes. One variant.

Contessa's horse ran incredibly well. Geez are Send it In and Tu Brutus ready to run with Arrogate..I dont know something does not seem kosher

dpkovalesky 04-09-2017 09:27 AM

Wow that Paradise Woods was some effort and #. Guess she's a pretty solid favorite for the oaks now

Dunbar 04-09-2017 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by dpkovalesky (Post 1088891)
Wow that Paradise Woods was some effort and #. Guess she's a pretty solid favorite for the oaks now

Based on the BSF's, Paradise Woods ran about 3.5-4 lengths faster than Irish War Cry, and would have to have been given some betting attention in the Derby itself if she were in the race.

Alabama Stakes 04-09-2017 10:50 AM

119 seems too high. Where did they cone up with that ? :rolleyes:

Kasept 04-10-2017 04:20 AM

KEE Beaumont S (G3): Sweet Loretta 90 (Tapit) T. Pletcher/J. Castellano

AQU Distaff H (G3): Highway Star 93 (Girolamo) R. Ubillo/A. Arroyo
AQU Danger's Hour S: Macagone 102 (Artie Schiller) W. Mott/K. Carmouche

SA Santa Paula S: Union Strike 89 (Union Rags) M. Ruis/B. Blanc

Rudeboyelvis 04-11-2017 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1088881)
KEE Ashland S (G1): Sailor's Valentine 77 (Mizzen Mast) E. Kenneally/C. Lanerie

Has to be the worst G1 BSF figure ever. Any idea what the Thorograph figure is?

blackthroatedwind 04-11-2017 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 1088972)
Has to be the worst G1 BSF figure ever. Any idea what the Thorograph figure is?


I think some horse won the Frizette a few years ago with a fig in the 50s, but yeah, that was ugly.

Alabama Stakes 04-11-2017 10:05 AM

How can s hoss who ran the last half mile of a 10 furlong race in 51 earn a 119 ?
2:02 is a 119 ? I'd love to see other examples of this phenomenon. Please spare me the " well the track was slow that day lame excuse. "

cakes44 04-11-2017 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1088973)
I think some horse won the Frizette a few years ago with a fig in the 50s, but yeah, that was ugly.

Was it Sutra? That was an awful race...might have snuck into the 60s for a BSF.

Indian Charlie 04-11-2017 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 1088984)
Was it Sutra? That was an awful race...might have snuck into the 60s for a BSF.

I think that was a 68

philcski 04-11-2017 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 1088993)
I think that was a 68

It was like a 57 or a 59. Just brutal. But this is amongst the lowest I've seen for a non-2yo G1.

@Alabama Stakes, With respect to the AQU figures...they are correct. There's an 18 point difference in time between the Wood and Excelsior, and 7 more to the Gazelle. If you think the Excelsior is wrong, drop the other two as well.

Kasept 04-12-2017 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 1088993)
I think that was a 68

68 is correct..

freddymo 04-12-2017 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by UncleBenelli (Post 1089010)
Can't believe the only questioning is the figures from Aqu.. As big of an effort that Gormley gained, he didn't even have the biggest effort in the race. Royal Mo has hidden value in his last two and is a big player for the Derby.
Just like this thread and other articles I have read since last Sat, folks seem to always discount the west coast preps. Just spit balling here, but in the last 10 years, how many derby winners have come out of Santa Anita?

Good performances that are slow are just that

NTamm1215 04-12-2017 09:01 AM

Have they crossed the wire yet in the SA Derby?

freddymo 04-12-2017 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 1089013)
Have they crossed the wire yet in the SA Derby?

What's par for a NW1 at SA 87?


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