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Kasept 09-26-2017 06:57 PM

11/3-4 (BC): POST DRAWN ~ Sprint, F&M Sprint, T/Sprint, D/Mile
 







Kasept 10-03-2017 07:18 PM

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RHT2004 10-03-2017 08:15 PM

Love Dick in the Sprint. For 2nd to Drefong.

knickslions2 10-03-2017 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1100508)
Love Dick in the Sprint. For 2nd to Drefong.

As much as I love you buddy never say you love Dick 😎

10 pnt move up 10-03-2017 11:23 PM

Is Mor Spirit alive? who comes into the mile race off a layoff like that.

blackthroatedwind 10-03-2017 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 1100513)
Is Mor Spirit alive? who comes into the mile race off a layoff like that.

Byk thinks there is nothing unusual about his absence since the Met Mile.

Kasept 10-04-2017 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1100514)
Byk thinks there is nothing unusual about his absence since the Met Mile.

Har, har.. Baffert has explained how much trouble he's had getting him back from the Met effort. Here's his work from last Thursday:

http://www.xbtv.com/video/workout/mo...ber-28th-2017/

10 pnt move up 10-04-2017 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1100515)
Har, har.. Baffert has explained how much trouble he's had getting him back from the Met effort. Here's his work from last Thursday:

http://www.xbtv.com/video/workout/mo...ber-28th-2017/

well either way he is shaping up to take a lot of money and be a great bet against in that case.

RHT2004 10-04-2017 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 1100517)
well either way he is shaping up to take a lot of money and be a great bet against in that case.

Why? He crushes that field with a anything close to his Met. Look what the runner up has done since.

blackthroatedwind 10-04-2017 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1100518)
Why? He crushes that field with a anything close to his Met. Look what the runner up has done since.


What is a proper futures price on this horse right now? Future meaning you lose in the wildly unlikely event he doesn't run.

declansharbor 10-04-2017 11:07 AM

Mor Spirit is HARDLY anything close to resembling a lock in a field that looks to have Pavel, Practical Joke, and a few other quality horses lining up in the gate.

I was hoping Reddam and O'Neill took a swing in the Classic with Pavel. Thought for sure they'd be doing so after the injury to Irap.

For all of the negativity I see posted towards the Breeder's Cup and some of the schedules that trainers are taking leading up to that weekend, I'm pumped up as can BE to wager on these sets of races.

Dew, SethCarter, and myself are going to have a field day. A bonafide BONANZA if you will!

RHT2004 10-04-2017 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1100519)
What is a proper futures price on this horse right now? Future meaning you lose in the wildly unlikely event he doesn't run.

I dont know.

RHT2004 10-04-2017 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1100515)
Har, har.. Baffert has explained how much trouble he's had getting him back from the Met effort. Here's his work from last Thursday:

http://www.xbtv.com/video/workout/mo...ber-28th-2017/

Im no workout expert, but that looked strong.

blackthroatedwind 10-04-2017 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1100539)
I dont know.

You have opinions on everything...so share one here. You're not an "I don't know" kind of guy.

RHT2004 10-04-2017 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1100544)
You have opinions on everything...so share one here. You're not an "I don't know" kind of guy.

Im not a fan of the other major players as much as others. Practical Joke belongs in the Sprint. Im not sure about Pavel at all, his Dandy was good, but he beat nothing at Parx.
3-1 I guess. The layoff is an obvious concern though.

blackthroatedwind 10-04-2017 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1100545)
Im not a fan of the other major players as much as others. Practical Joke belongs in the Sprint. Im not sure about Pavel at all, his Dandy was good, but he beat nothing at Parx.
3-1 I guess. The layoff is an obvious concern though.


3:1 seems like a horrendous price given you lose if he doesn't run. I'll believe it when I see it, but I don't underestimate Baffert. Anyone else, and I would book him at 8:1.

You're not the only one that thinks that about Joke.

cakes44 10-04-2017 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1100545)
Im not a fan of the other major players as much as others. Practical Joke belongs in the Sprint. Im not sure about Pavel at all, his Dandy was good, but he beat nothing at Parx.
3-1 I guess. The layoff is an obvious concern though.

Agreed on Practical Joke.

So if you've got a fair futures bet at 3-1 on MS, what would you take on Arrogate?

RHT2004 10-05-2017 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 1100551)
Agreed on Practical Joke.

So if you've got a fair futures bet at 3-1 on MS, what would you take on Arrogate?

I dont play futures.
Arrogate is under 5-2 @ post time though and im sure hes running.

freddymo 10-05-2017 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1100550)
3:1 seems like a horrendous price given you lose if he doesn't run. I'll believe it when I see it, but I don't underestimate Baffert. Anyone else, and I would book him at 8:1.

You're not the only one that thinks that about Joke.

Practical Joke in the mile is frustrating, "the mile" is frustrating, perhaps around 1 turn but these phony mile races at tracks that arent big enough to run a 1 turn mile are silly. The whole year at so many tracks they run 1 1/16, 1 70yd , 1 40yds they get to Nov and they just start the clock 12 seconds into the actual race. I really dont get why its necessary to deceive people

blackthroatedwind 10-05-2017 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1100554)
I dont play futures.
Arrogate is under 5-2 @ post time though and im sure hes running.


You can never be "sure" a horse is running.

10 pnt move up 10-05-2017 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 1100556)
Practical Joke in the mile is frustrating, "the mile" is frustrating, perhaps around 1 turn but these phony mile races at tracks that arent big enough to run a 1 turn mile are silly. The whole year at so many tracks they run 1 1/16, 1 70yd , 1 40yds they get to Nov and they just start the clock 12 seconds into the actual race. I really dont get why its necessary to deceive people

I 100% disagree, but maybe thats because a mile has always been two turns that the tracks I have played.

RHT2004 10-05-2017 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1100557)
You can never be "sure" a horse is running.

For better or worst I'm standing with Arrogate. He wires this field.

blackthroatedwind 10-05-2017 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1100570)
For better or worst I'm standing with Arrogate. He wires this field.

What does that have to do with you saying you are "sure" he is running in a race a month from now?

Kasept 10-19-2017 09:18 PM

El Deal bypassing Sprint..

-BT- 10-20-2017 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1101256)
El Deal bypassing Sprint..

no, no, please stay we need pace :rolleyes:

-bt-

RHT2004 10-20-2017 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by -BT- (Post 1101262)
no, no, please stay we need pace :rolleyes:

-bt-

Like anyone was beating Drefong.

taxicab 10-20-2017 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1101284)
Like anyone was beating Drefong.


I've seen three really good works (thank you XBTV) from possible sprint horses.

I think I'm priced in to Takaful in the Sprint(guessing PJ goes in the Dirt Mile).........of course I'll carry Drefong on the multi's.

http://www.xbtv.com/video/wokout/mor...ber-16th-2017/

http://www.xbtv.com/video/workout/ta...ber-19th-2017/

http://www.xbtv.com/video/practical-...ber-14th-2017/

taxicab 10-20-2017 08:32 PM

Does anybody know for sure which barn Constellation is in these days ?
Looks like she's no longer in the Hollendorfer barn.....

Kasept 10-21-2017 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1101284)
Like anyone was beating Drefong.

Imperial Hint particularly benefits from El Deal's departure and should be strongly considered as a B.

RolloTomasi 10-21-2017 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by taxicab (Post 1101309)
Does anybody know for sure which barn Constellation is in these days ?
Looks like she's no longer in the Hollendorfer barn.....

Bob Baffert is the current trainer.

10 pnt move up 10-21-2017 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 1101319)
Bob Baffert is the current trainer.

yea, Baffert picked up a number of horses and so did Baltas, think it was LXFoxwoods or something like that, I know Tapped left Hollendorfer for Baltas.

LITF 10-21-2017 10:33 PM

I'm interested in Tribalist in the Turf Sprint. Think the 6.5 at Santa Anita is a touch far for him. And he loves Del Mar. His 3rd today hopefully will leave him with nice odds if he runs. Does anyone know if he is a definite (if healthy) starter in the BC?

10 pnt move up 10-21-2017 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by LITF (Post 1101373)
I'm interested in Tribalist in the Turf Sprint. Think the 6.5 at Santa Anita is a touch far for him. And he loves Del Mar. His 3rd today hopefully will leave him with nice odds if he runs. Does anyone know if he is a definite (if healthy) starter in the BC?

I dont get why they ran him today, was baffling to me. Gotta think 3 races in 5 weeks is probably a bit much for him.

LITF 10-22-2017 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 1101374)
I dont get why they ran him today, was baffling to me. Gotta think 3 races in 5 weeks is probably a bit much for him.

Thought the same thing

Kasept 10-27-2017 06:46 AM

FRIDAY PP'S

SATURDAY PP'S

Kasept 10-27-2017 12:32 PM

BAL A BALI out of Mile and retired to Calumet..

That gets HOME OF THE BRAVE in and as discussed with Marcus Hersh today, expect more movement which will find KARAR, OM, MR. ROARY & FRANK CONVERSATION into field too.. (Big Score likely in Saturday's Twilight Derby; Churchill likely to Classic; Roly Poly likely to F&M Turf; Senga to F&M Turf)

MILE

1. Ballagh Rocks (Mott)
2. Blackjackcat (Glatt)
3. Heart to Heart (Lynch)
4. Lancaster Bomber (O'Brien) ~ Dirt Mile//
5. Ribchester-IRE (Fahey)
6. Suedois-FR (O'Meara)
7. World Approval (Casse)
8. Zelzal (Rouget)
9. Churchill (AO'B) ~ Classic/
10. Home of The Brave (Palmer)

11. Big Score (Yakteen) ~ TWILIGHT DERBY
12. Decorated Knight-GB (Charlton) ~ TURF
13. Senga (Bary) ~ FM TURF
14. Roly Poly (O'Brien) ~ FM TURF


11. Karar (Graffard)
12. Mr. Roary (Papaprodromou) ~ Turf//
13. Om (Hendricks)
14. Frank Conversation (O'Neill) ~ Turf//

Kasept 10-28-2017 06:53 PM

DIRT MILE: Cupid officially in; Imperative out with hairline pelvic fracture..

Current projected field..

DIRT MILE

Giant Expectations (Eurton)
Mor Spirit (Baffert)
Accelerate (Sadler)
Awesome Slew (Casse)
Battle of Midway (Hollendorfer)
Cupid (Baffert)
Iron Fist (Asmussen)
Midnight Storm (D'amato)
Sharp Azteca (Navarro)
Gato Del Oro (Baltas)
Practical Joke (C. Brown)

XIIPointStables 10-30-2017 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1101645)
DIRT MILE: Cupid officially in; Imperative out with hairline pelvic fracture..

Current projected field..

DIRT MILE

Giant Expectations (Eurton)
Mor Spirit (Baffert)
Accelerate (Sadler)
Awesome Slew (Casse)
Battle of Midway (Hollendorfer)
Cupid (Baffert)
Iron Fist (Asmussen)
Midnight Storm (D'amato)
Sharp Azteca (Navarro)
Gato Del Oro (Baltas)

Does that mean Practical Joke is going to give it a go in the Sprint?

Kasept 10-30-2017 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by XIIPointStables (Post 1101701)
Does that mean Practical Joke is going to give it a go in the Sprint?

Oops.. No. Lost him in translation.

Kasept 10-30-2017 10:24 PM









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