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Kasept 12-15-2013 06:42 AM

Weekend Stakes Beyers
 
BHP CashCall Futurity(G1): Shared Belief 106 (Candy Ride-ARG) J. Hollendorfer/C. Nakatani
BHP Hollywood Turf Cup S (G2): Lucayan-FR 93 (Turtle Bowl-IRE) N. Drysdale/J. Rosario
BHP Native Diver S (G3): Blueskiesnrainbows 92 (English Channel) J. Hollendorfer/M. Pedroza
BHP Playa Del Rey S: Teddy's Promise 93 (Salt Lake) R. Ellis/V. Espinoza

RP Springboard Mile S: Louies Flower -- (Flower Alley) W. Calhoun/L. Quinonez

WO Valedictory S (G3): Quaesitor 88 (Friends Lake) I. Howard/G. Olguin
WO Ontario Lassie S: Paladin Bay 82 (Sligo Bay-IRE) H. Ladouceur/G. Olguin

GP Sugar Swirl S (G3): Heart Stealer 91 (Speightstown) M. Wolfson/J. Castellano
GP South Beach S: Baffle Me 90 (First Samurai) M. Hennig/J. Castellano

HAW Jim Edgar Illinois Futurity: Rambling Richie 73 (Lifestyle) L. Rivelli/E. Baird

AQU Queens County S: Jonesy Boy 94 (Smarty Jones) K. Breen/R. Maragh

CRC Kenny Noe Jr. H: Simmstown 100 (Limehouse) M. Wolfson/E. Zayas

FG LA Champions Day Classic S: Sunbean 92 (Brahms) R. Faucheux/R. Eramia
FG LA Champions Day Ladies Sprint S: Guadalupe High 76 (Cuvee) R. Werner/G. Melancon
FG LA Champions Day Lassie S: Lexi's Love 56 (Big Top Cat) A. Klanfer/D. Saenz
FG LA Champions Day Sprint S: Heitai 104 (Fusaichi Pegasus) K. Broberg/D. Saenz
FG LA Champions Day Juvenile S: Ide Be Cool 92(Ide) H. Dunn/C. Rosier
FG LA Champions Day Turf S: Hud's Rebellion 90 (Ole Rebel) A. Leggio/R. Napravnik
FG LA Champions Day Ladies S: Ladyzarbridge 90 (Zarbyev) E. Johnston/R. Napravnik

helicopter11 12-15-2013 05:49 PM

I am not a believer of Shared Belief being a KY Derby contender until this horse repeats his efforts on regular dirt.

Kasept 12-16-2013 08:05 AM

RP Springboard Mile S: Louies Flower -- (Flower Alley) W. Calhoun/L. Quinonez

WO Valedictory S (G3): Quaesitor 88 (Friends Lake) I. Howard/G. Olguin

BHP Playa Del Rey S: Teddy's Promise 93 (Salt Lake) R. Ellis/V. Espinoza

GP South Beach S: Baffle Me 90 (First Samurai) M. Hennig/J. Castellano

10 pnt move up 12-16-2013 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by helicopter11 (Post 957255)
I am not a believer of Shared Belief being a KY Derby contender until this horse repeats his efforts on regular dirt.

He has a style that is more conducive to dirt than turf, normally I dont disagree about syn horses but in this case if he is not a derby contender I dont know what qualifies as such in December.

Indian Charlie 12-16-2013 09:56 AM

Shared Belief doesn't even need to be as good on dirt as he is on synthetics to win the Derby.

RockHardTen1985 12-16-2013 12:00 PM

Long way to go still. I'll still take the top 2 from the Remsen ahead of Shared Belief.

10 pnt move up 12-16-2013 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 957308)
Long way to go still. I'll still take the top 2 from the Remsen ahead of Shared Belief.

You basing that on the Remson?

letswastemoney 12-16-2013 01:49 PM

I'd take Honor Code and Cairo Prince too. The Remsen proved nothing, but their previous starts are good.

Indian Charlie 12-16-2013 02:43 PM

The way I hear it, Honor Code might not even be the best 2yo in their barn.

freddymo 12-16-2013 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 957318)
The way I hear it, Honor Code might not even be the best 2yo in their barn.

Who is?

Indian Charlie 12-16-2013 03:58 PM

Top Billing

letswastemoney 12-16-2013 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 957322)
Top Billing

Why did he start at Laurel Park to begin his career? I usually take that as a sign they're hiding the horse against softer competition.

Indian Charlie 12-16-2013 04:26 PM

Wanted to get a race in before going down to Fla, I would suppose.

I realize that field was nothing special, but he won it in eye popping fashion and should have no issues at all with distance.

RockHardTen1985 12-16-2013 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 957310)
You basing that on the Remson?

Im basing it on surface that each horse has performed over, pedigree, trainers. The Remsen top 2, actually top 3 all have a lot going for them.

RockHardTen1985 12-16-2013 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney (Post 957323)
Why did he start at Laurel Park to begin his career? I usually take that as a sign they're hiding the horse against softer competition.

What day did that horse run, I want to look at the chart.

letswastemoney 12-16-2013 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 957328)
What day did that horse run, I want to look at the chart.

Dec. 6

http://www.equibase.com/static/chart...120613USA1.pdf

RockHardTen1985 12-16-2013 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney (Post 957329)

OK impressive I guess. I think asking why that horse was sent to Laurel first out is a very legit question.

Kasept 12-16-2013 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by letswastemoney (Post 957323)
Why did he start at Laurel Park to begin his career? I usually take that as a sign they're hiding the horse against softer competition.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 957324)
Wanted to get a race in before going down to Fla, I would suppose.

I realize that field was nothing special, but he won it in eye popping fashion and should have no issues at all with distance.

Recognize that McGaughey now has the barn at Fair Hill. As he said on ATR earlier in the fall, he'll utilize all the resources in its' proximity.

10 pnt move up 12-16-2013 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 957326)
Im basing it on surface that each horse has performed over, pedigree, trainers. The Remsen top 2, actually top 3 all have a lot going for them.

Yea I can see what you mean with trainers.

letswastemoney 12-16-2013 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 957340)
Recognize that McGaughey now has the barn at Fair Hill. As he said on ATR earlier in the fall, he'll utilize all the resources in its' proximity.

That makes sense now. Thanks.


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