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Kasept 11-28-2012 02:55 PM

12/1-2 (HOL): Native Diver (G3), Skillful Joy; Vernon O. Underwood (G3)
 
3rd (1:30) Skillful Joy S.

6 Furlongs (Turf) | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $65,000

1 Byrama (GB) Bejarano R 121 L
2 Reneesgotzip Gomez G K 124 L
3 Minds Eyes Smith M E 121 L
4 Belle Passe Talamo J 121 L
5 Forbidden City Baze T C 121
6 Curvy Cat Nakatani C S 121 L
7 Nechez Dawn Maldonado E 121 L
8 Eileen's Dream Garcia M 119 L



4th (2:01) Native Diver H. (G3)

1 1/8 Miles (All Weather Track) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $250,000

1 Game On Dude Smith M E 124 L
2 Richard's Kid Bejarano R 119 L
3 Make Music for Me Baze T C 117 L
4 Nonios Pedroza M A 119 L
5 Kettle Corn Gomez G K 119 L

outofthebox 11-28-2012 05:36 PM

Game On Dude can miss the break and still drag Smith to the lead..Absolutely no pace in this race...

Kasept 11-29-2012 05:05 PM

SUNDAY 8th (4:05) Vernon O. Underwood S. (G3)

6 Furlongs (All Weather Track) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Capital Account Flores D R 124 L
2 Smash Garcia M 114 L
3 Fast Bullet Talamo J 114 L
4 Smiling Tiger Bejarano R 122 L
5 Bank the Eight Gomez G K 118 L
6 Comma to the Top Nakatani C S 120 L
7 Private Zone Pedroza M A 116 L

letswastemoney 12-01-2012 04:10 PM

That was an awesome effort from Nonios (even though Game on Dude won)!

Does that move up Blueskiesenrainbows's chances in the 8th race? After all, the last time Nonios raced on synthetic before this, Blueskies defeated him.

cakes44 12-01-2012 05:34 PM

They seriously ran 1 1/8th in So Cal in 1:52+. It's time for a break for Game on Dude.

jms62 12-01-2012 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 904872)
They seriously ran 1 1/8th in So Cal in 1:52+. It's time for a break for Game on Dude.

Any thought that the track may be slow today?

PatCummings 12-01-2012 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 904877)
Any thought that the track may be slow today?

Considering the fractions for the filly sprint race, one race before the Native Diver, it sure looked like the slowest SoCal track I can remember.

cakes44 12-02-2012 08:11 AM

I stand corrected after looking at the rest of the times. That was a ridiculously slow track.

hoovesupsideyourhead 12-02-2012 11:44 AM

bunch or horses that got beat like a drum in the classic,who hoo..

helicopter11 12-03-2012 06:49 PM

why does bob baffert insist on running capital account at 6F? He is 0 for 6 at the distance and 5 for 6 on distance more than 6f. He is by Closing Argument so 1 mile should be well within his reach. I am surprised they werent targeting the BC Dirt Mile instead of the Sprint.

Dahoss 12-03-2012 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by helicopter11 (Post 905151)
why does bob baffert insist on running capital account at 6F? He is 0 for 6 at the distance and 5 for 6 on distance more than 6f. He is by Closing Argument so 1 mile should be well within his reach. I am surprised they werent targeting the BC Dirt Mile instead of the Sprint.

For one the BC Dirt Mile is two turns, at Santa Anita at least.

If they didn't run yesterday, the only other spot would have been the Cigar Mile, which would have worked as it's one turn.

I think your stat (which was mentioned ad nauseum on TVG yesterday) is kind of misleading. He's been close in some of his 6 furlong races and has led way before the 6 furlong mark in his 6 1/2 or 7 furlong wins.

helicopter11 12-03-2012 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 905152)
For one the BC Dirt Mile is two turns, at Santa Anita at least.

If they didn't run yesterday, the only other spot would have been the Cigar Mile, which would have worked as it's one turn.

I think your stat (which was mentioned ad nauseum on TVG yesterday) is kind of misleading. He's been close in some of his 6 furlong races and has led way before the 6 furlong mark in his 6 1/2 or 7 furlong wins.

his 0 for 6 at 6f is misleading? Is the logical plan to keep racing him at 6f until he wins one? He will probably win one in ALW conditions where he just inherits the lead as he had done before racing against much lesser. They could have run him in the Malibu.

Dahoss 12-03-2012 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by helicopter11 (Post 905153)
his 0 for 6 at 6f is misleading? Is the logical plan to keep racing him at 6f until he wins one? He will probably win one in ALW conditions where he just inherits the lead as he had done before racing against much lesser. They could have run him in the Malibu.

It's misleading because in 6 starts going 6 furlongs, he's been off the board just once (when he didn't lift a hoof in the Breeders Cup.) He's been 2nd three times and 3rd twice, missing by a head three back.

Maybe if Baffert had a time machine they could have run him in the Malibu, but it's restricted to 3 year olds and he is 5.

Where is Doc Brown when you need him with the flux capacitor?

helicopter11 12-03-2012 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 905154)
It's misleading because in 6 starts going 6 furlongs, he's been off the board just once (when he didn't lift a hoof in the Breeders Cup.) He's been 2nd three times and 3rd twice, missing by a head three back.

Maybe if Baffert had a time machine they could have run him in the Malibu, but it's restricted to 3 year olds and he is 5.

Where is Doc Brown when you need him with the flux capacitor? :D:tro:



My mistake on the Malibu reference :(. San Carlos Stakes on Feb 23 at 7f is a logical choice next out.

helicopter11 12-03-2012 09:17 PM

Actually, Flux Capacitor, would be an awesome name for a racehorse

Dahoss 12-03-2012 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by helicopter11 (Post 905156)
Actually, Flux Capacitor, would be an awesome name for a racehorse

Hopefully someone reads the thread, names a horse that and gives us a small stake. In retrospect, maybe the Cigar Mile might have been a good chance to see what he could do going longer than he has...but it's not like he disgraced himself yesterday.

Duvalier 12-03-2012 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 905158)
Hopefully someone reads the thread, names a horse that and gives us a small stake. In retrospect, maybe the Cigar Mile might have been a good chance to see what he could do going longer than he has...but it's not like he disgraced himself yesterday.

Maybe Steve can name a DeeTee horse that and get phystech to manage it

Dahoss 12-03-2012 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duvalier (Post 905160)
Maybe Steve can name a DeeTee horse that and get phystech to manage it

:tro:

Well played.

Indian Charlie 12-04-2012 01:50 AM

http://www.pedigreequery.com/flux+capacitor

Indian Charlie 12-04-2012 01:51 AM

Hey Helicopter, you wouldn't happen to be related to Ron Ellis, would ya?

Just asking because of the comment about running an older horse in the Malibu.


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