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Kasept 03-13-2013 12:57 PM

3/16 (OP): Rebel S. (G2), Azeri S. (G3)
 
9th (5:13) Azeri S. (G3)

1 1/16 Miles | Fillies and Mares | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 Tiz Miz Sue Rocco J S Jr 113 L
2 Holy Heavens Ocampo I 113 L
3 She's All In Quinonez L S 119 L
4 Songs and Sonnets Gomez G K 115 L
5 Keiai Tokyo Homeister R B Jr 113 L
6 Don't Tell Sophia Albarado R J 119 L
7 My Miss Aurelia Nakatani C S 119 L



10th (5:48) Rebel S. (G2)

1 1/16 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $600,000

2 Carve Nakatani C S 117 L
1 Treasury Bill Talamo J 115 L
3 Texas Bling Berry M C 119 L
4 Delhomme Gomez G K 115 L
5 Hardrock Eleven Thompson T J 115 L
6 Den's Legacy Albarado R J 119 L
7 Will Take Charge Court J K 122 L
8 Stormy Holiday Bell D C 115 L
1A Title Contender Quinonez L S 115 L
9 Oxbow Smith M E 122 L
10 Super Ninety Nine Bejarano R 122 L

A-Coupled: Treasury Bill and Title Contender

FATPIANO 03-13-2013 03:00 PM

It Will Be The Old 6/9
Den's Legacy Over Oxbow

lemoncrush 03-13-2013 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 919146)

1 1/16 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $600,000

2 Carve Nakatani C S 117 L
1 Treasury Bill Talamo J 115 L
3 Texas Bling Berry M C 119 L
4 Delhomme Gomez G K 115 L
5 Hardrock Eleven Thompson T J 115 L
6 Den's Legacy Albarado R J 119 L
7 Will Take Charge Court J K 122 L
8 Stormy Holiday Bell D C 115 L
1A Title Contender Quinonez L S 115 L
9 Oxbow Smith M E 122 L
10 Super Ninety Nine Bejarano R 122 L

A-Coupled: Treasury Bill and Title Contender

5 West coast jockeys are coming to Oaklawn Saturday? Nice to give some other jockeys a chance to win a race back at Santa Anita on saturday. :)

geojr130 03-13-2013 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by lemoncrush (Post 919165)
5 West coast jockeys are coming to Oaklawn Saturday? Nice to give some other jockeys a chance to win a race back at Santa Anita on saturday. :)

How many left coast horses won the derby in the last 10 years? I think two? I'll have another and the guy that had the crutches horse?

cakes44 03-14-2013 07:36 AM

Is that 3 for DWL in there or has one of those horses changed hands?

NTamm1215 03-14-2013 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 919239)
Is that 3 for DWL in there or has one of those horses changed hands?

Just two. Oxbow and Will Take Charge.

Dahoss 03-14-2013 08:43 AM

What's up with the undercard at Oaklawn on Saturday? Pretty weak.

cmorioles 03-14-2013 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 919243)
What's up with the undercard at Oaklawn on Saturday? Pretty weak.

They save most of the good stuff for the Festival of the South or whatever it is called.

Conrad 03-14-2013 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by geojr130 (Post 919223)
How many left coast horses won the derby in the last 10 years? I think two? I'll have another and the guy that had the crutches horse?

Don't forget Giacomo

Calzone Lord 03-14-2013 09:03 AM

Mine That Bird was a Canadian horse as a 2yo and prepped exclusively at Sunland.

Dahoss 03-14-2013 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmorioles (Post 919244)
They save most of the good stuff for the Festival of the South or whatever it is called.

I know but it's a month away. How about an allowance race or two? I guess on the bright side the fields are big, which is good.

Calzone Lord 03-14-2013 09:54 AM

Eoin Harty and Casner continue to refuse to give Right To Vote lasix. He goes in the last race on that OP card.

I know they're trying to prove a point and all, or something, but that horse would probably benefit from the medication judging by the way he's stopped so suddenly in his last two races.

I guess they're trying not to look hypocritical or whatever... but are you really hypocritical saying you're against something, and using it, if using it is legal, widely used, and prevents a specific horse or two from a disadvantage?

NTamm1215 03-14-2013 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 919255)
Eoin Harty and Casner continue to refuse to give Right To Vote lasix. He goes in the last race on that OP card.

I know they're trying to prove a point and all, or something, but that horse would probably benefit from the medication judging by the way he's stopped so suddenly in his last two races.

I guess they're trying not to look hypocritical or whatever... but are you really hypocritical saying you're against something, and using it, if using it is legal, widely used, and prevents a specific horse or two from a disadvantage?

Endorsement has slid into oblivion also, and his performances look like they have a lot to do with him not taking medication.

As far as these races go, Don't Tell Sophia is poised to exploit the overrated My Miss Aurelia. Don't Tell Sophia's last two races were excellent.

cakes44 03-14-2013 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 919240)
Just two. Oxbow and Will Take Charge.

My bad...got title contender mixed up with titletown five. Thanks.

PatCummings 03-15-2013 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardus (Post 919487)
Agreed.

The 7th Race is for $16,000 claimers.

Seven races into a big card and this is what Oaklawn delivers, when its next big card is four weeks away?

Also, the big fields are great, but it's not as if you can play Pick 3s out of the box; you have to wait until Race 4, I believe.


If NYRA offered this...

I'm waiting to see how many races can go off at the same time or within two minutes of Gulfstream, Aqueduct, Fair Grounds, Santa Anita. I'll set the line at 6.5

herkhorse 03-16-2013 07:12 AM

What a bunch of whiners. :zz: Unless you live in Illinois, there's not really anything to b.itch about.

NTamm1215 03-16-2013 09:42 AM

I don't mind the cheaper races since the fields are big. However, Oaklawn's wagering menu is deplorable.

herkhorse 03-16-2013 09:52 AM

I don't know about deplorable, but it's definitely old school. Other than adding rolling DD's and 3 more pick 3's, it seems pretty normal to me. Maybe the $ just isn't there.

NTamm1215 03-16-2013 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by herkhorse (Post 919520)
I don't know about deplorable, but it's definitely old school. Other than adding rolling DD's and 3 more pick 3's, it seems pretty normal to me. Maybe the $ just isn't there.

It's not normal to regularly have fields of 8+ where there's no superfecta. They only have supers on the 4th, 6th, and 9th on a regular weekday card. On a day like today, they have no super on the 1st (9 horses), 2nd (11 horses), 3rd (12 horses), 5th (11 horses), 7th (12 horses), and 8th (12 horses). That's lunacy.

They have only one Pick 4 and limited Pick 3s, as you referenced. The two daily doubles per day are well behind the times.

Oaklawn's biggest problem is they cater FAR too much to the local customers. That's nice of them, but it ignores racing in the modern day and goes a long way towards why 1/3rd of their handle on weekends is on-track.

They regularly handle less than Fair Grounds and Tampa Bay on Saturdays because they do a HORRIBLE job of managing their post times and have limited wagering options.

I like Oaklawn, but is a grossly mis-managed racetrack.


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