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Kasept 07-05-2017 07:15 AM

7/8-9 (BEL): Stars/Stripes (Derby, Oaks, Suburban, etc.); Victory Ride
 



RHT2004 07-05-2017 06:27 PM

Huge card.
Really excited for this.
If anyone wants my stakes opinions, just ask.

10 pnt move up 07-05-2017 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1094329)
Huge card.
Really excited for this.
If anyone wants my stakes opinions, just ask.

it looks like it could be real chalky to me, though I am just scanning the pp's right now.

RHT2004 07-05-2017 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 1094331)
it looks like it could be real chalky to me, though I am just scanning the pp's right now.

Battallion Runner is a moral lock. Think Zito can run 2nd at a decent price. Practical Joke will be on his way to the Kings Bishop after this, nothing wrong with that though.

10 pnt move up 07-05-2017 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1094332)
Battallion Runner is a moral lock. Think Zito can run 2nd at a decent price. Practical Joke will be on his way to the Kings Bishop after this, nothing wrong with that though.

Wonder what True Timber does.

I actually like Practical Joke in this spot.

10 pnt move up 07-05-2017 10:50 PM

Is the Belmont Oaks more or less the replacement for the American Oaks? I am trying to remember the Belmont Oaks history and I just cant recall this race.

blackthroatedwind 07-05-2017 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 1094339)
Is the Belmont Oaks more or less the replacement for the American Oaks? I am trying to remember the Belmont Oaks history and I just cant recall this race.

It's the Garden City moved from Fall to Summer. The Belmont Derby was the Jamaica.

Kasept 07-06-2017 05:55 PM

Sunday
 

RHT2004 07-06-2017 06:02 PM

Im using 3 in the American Oaks. Coasted who will be a big price after not really breaking last time. I know she has a big race in her. Key to my Heart. I love the breeding and respect the connections to much. And Sistercharlie, who is the obvious horse to beat. Her 2nd place finish in her last race is massive.

Kasept 07-06-2017 06:09 PM

This isn't the American Oaks. The American Oaks is still in California, run at the beginning of the Santa Anita meet in December.

RHT2004 07-06-2017 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1094365)
This isn't the American Oaks. The American Oaks is still in California, run at the beginning of the Santa Anita meet in December.

Someone mentioned American Oaks it was on my mind. Belmont Oaks.

RHT2004 07-06-2017 08:50 PM

I realize Shaman Ghost is the horse to beat by alot. But he looks to be about 2-5. I know it was a slow pace last time and he didn't have the best trip and overcame it all. He is rock solid, but at 2-5 isn't he worth trying to beat. Matt King Coal was very good early on in his career and appears to be really moving forward. I could see a Seymourdini like performance out of him on Saturday. Especially with his obvious tactical advantage.

freddymo 07-07-2017 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1094379)
I realize Shaman Ghost is the horse to beat by alot. But he looks to be about 2-5. I know it was a slow pace last time and he didn't have the best trip and overcame it all. He is rock solid, but at 2-5 isn't he worth trying to beat. Matt King Coal was very good early on in his career and appears to be really moving forward. I could see a Seymourdini like performance out of him on Saturday. Especially with his obvious tactical advantage.

I always thought Matt for the better of the two anyways. She is a fantastic trainer

Hickory Hill Hoff 07-07-2017 11:10 AM

Although I'm a BIG fan of Mind Your Biscuits, I wonder how he'll react from the Dubai trip....... I think Ticonderoga will just LOVE the distance & at 15-1 is a HUGE way to finish off the pick 5 sequence!

RHT2004 07-07-2017 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff (Post 1094393)
Although I'm a BIG fan of Mind Your Biscuits, I wonder how he'll react from the Dubai trip....... I think Ticonderoga will just LOVE the distance & at 15-1 is a HUGE way to finish off the pick 5 sequence!

Im using Unified and Tommy Macho.

Hickory Hill Hoff 07-07-2017 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1094394)
Im using Unified and Tommy Macho.

Stallwalkin' Dude ;)

cakes44 07-07-2017 04:56 PM

I'll be taking a shot with Big Score.

10 pnt move up 07-07-2017 05:24 PM

Handicapping the card with Beyer and Sterling

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v75vKm3jjqU

10 pnt move up 07-07-2017 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff (Post 1094396)
Stallwalkin' Dude ;)

I bet this horse last time and have a lot of respect for him, has danced the dances...that being said he always shows up but his wins seems to be a notch below this level, I will use him but feel like he has had his chances.

I think Unified is tough in this spot and trip which may be right outside a slow pace.

RHT2004 07-07-2017 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 1094410)
Handicapping the card with Beyer and Sterling

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v75vKm3jjqU

Seems like everyone is down on Battalion Runner. I obviously disagree. Do think Zito is 2nd most likely though.


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