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Kasept 04-15-2018 05:35 AM

Weekend Stakes Beyer: Magnum Moon 98
 
OP Arkansas Derby (G1): Magnum Moon 98 (Malibu Moon) T. Pletcher/L. Saez
OP Oaklawn H (G2): City of Light 107 (Quality Road) M. McCarthy /D. Van Dyke
OP Count Fleet Sprint H (G3): Whitmore 102 (Pleasantly Perfect) R. Moquett /R. Santana
OP Northern Spur S: High North 91 (Midnight Lute) B. Cox /F. Geroux
OP Apple Blossom H (G1): Unbridled Mo 95 (Uncle Mo) T. Pletcher/R. Santana
OP Fantasy S (G3): Sassy Sienna 82 (Midshipman) B. Cox/G. Stevens
OP Bachelor S: Mitole 107 (Eskendereya) S. Asmussen/R. Santana

KEE Maker's 46 Mile S (G1): Heart to Heart 105 (English Channel) B. Lynch/J. Leparoux
KEE Jenny Wiley S (G1): Sistercharlie-IRE 103 (Myboycharlie-IRE) C. Brown/J. Velazquez
KEE Ben Ali S (G3): Rated R Superstar 93 (Kodiak Kowboy) K. McPeek/J. Castellano
KEE Lexington S (G3): My Boy Jack 90 (Creative Cause) J. Desormeaux/K. Desormeaux
KEE Giant's Causeway S: Triple Chelsea 97 Hat Trick-JPN) J. Sharp/A. Beschizza

SA Thor's Echo H: B Squared 94 (Square Eddie) D. O'Neill/M. Gutierrez

AQU Bridgetown S: Black Stetson 80 (More Than Ready) J. Guerrero/J. Alvarado
AQU Plenty of Grace S: Uni (GB) 93 (More Than Ready) C. Brown/I. Ortiz
AQU Top Flight Invitational S: Blue Prize-ARG 90 (Pure Prize) I. Correas/J. Ortiz
AQU Mizdirection S: Out of The Flames-GB 82 (Showcasing-GB) S. Callaghan/P. Lopez

SUN Copper Top Futurity: Hustle Up -- (Abstraction) T. Fincher/T. Hebert
SUN Sunland Park H: Oh So Regal -- (Sidney's Candy) M. Hernandez/A. Juarez

MVR Howard B. Noonan S: Buster's Boy 69 (Twinspired) W. Cowans/W. De La Cruz
MVR Austintown Filly Sprint S: Flame Mingo 70 (Blame) W. Cowans/O. Mojica

RHT2004 04-15-2018 10:04 AM

Not a fan of Magnum Moon especially after yesterday.

knickslions2 04-15-2018 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1108164)
Not a fan of Magnum Moon especially after yesterday.

Horse looked green coming down stretch but that was a solid run as a prep for derby. Will be a major player slightly off the pace.

RHT2004 04-15-2018 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 1108168)
Horse looked green coming down stretch but that was a solid run as a prep for derby. Will be a major player slightly off the pace.

Disagree. Hes a total toss for me.

cal828 04-15-2018 12:02 PM

I think Magnum Moon is better as a stalker or closer than as a pace setter, but he had no choice. Not a whole lot of other speed in there to go with Quip. I was surprised that Quip hung around, but the early pace was slow, I think, so maybe that accounts for that? Or maybe I'm just not giving Quip his due. He may be just one of those horses that I continually misjudge.

freddymo 04-15-2018 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1108169)
Disagree. He's a total toss for me.

I wouldn't say he is a complete toss as in I would be shocked if he won the KD. that said I think you have to take a stand against him unless you make him a C on a more substantial pick four ticket

RHT2004 04-15-2018 06:38 PM

How about Bee Jersey? Just watched replays. He was strong.

Kasept 04-16-2018 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1108213)
How about Bee Jersey? Just watched replays. He was strong.

95

jms62 04-16-2018 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 1108184)
I wouldn't say he is a complete toss as in I would be shocked if he won the KD. that said I think you have to take a stand against him unless you make him a C on a more substantial pick four ticket

Me too. I will have to let a horse without a 2 Year Old season beat me first before I start using in the future. Keeps the cost of my Super down. Eventually it will happen but not playing has worked out until now.

knickslions2 04-16-2018 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1108233)
Me too. I will have to let a horse without a 2 Year Old season beat me first before I start using in the future. Keeps the cost of my Super down. Eventually it will happen but not playing has worked out until now.

That's understandable but this year feels different and the horse has 4 solid races under his belt this year. Lots could happen the next few weeks but really feel this horse is as good as any in the field and will be first one coming on the pace horses with no problem getting the distance. No way he is not on my ticket.

RHT2004 04-16-2018 12:32 PM

I'm using 3 horses, unless something crazy happens in the draw.
Justify and Hofburg are my As and Vino is like a c/b.

lemoncrush 04-16-2018 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 1108237)
That's understandable but this year feels different and the horse has 4 solid races under his belt this year. Lots could happen the next few weeks but really feel this horse is as good as any in the field and will be first one coming on the pace horses with no problem getting the distance. No way he is not on my ticket.

I feel the same.
I like that he has 3 two-turn victories this year, and has won at 3 different tracks. Seems versatile enough to be placed near or off the pace. I'm not going to hold it against him that he was able to run a slow second quarter, or that he drifted out/got distracted down the stretch.
He looked professional in his other races and like his pedigree.

He's in my top 3 now, but I'll see how it comes into the race and what post position he gets before making any definitive opinions about him.


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