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Kasept 05-11-2022 04:34 PM

5/14 (BEL): Man o'War (G1), Peter Pan, Beaugay, Runhappy, Vagrancy (G3's)
 





Kasept 05-11-2022 05:09 PM

May 14 ~ All Belmont, All Stake X-C P5

Leg A: Belmont-Race 3 (2:05 pm)
Leg B: Belmont-Race 5 (3:06 pm)
Leg C: Belmont-Race 8 (4:46 pm)
Leg D: Belmont-Race 9 (5:19 pm)
Leg E: Belmont-Race 10 (5:50 pm)

RolloTomasi 05-11-2022 07:32 PM

Set Sail had to literally "set sail" to find a race against winners.

I guess a first condition allowance open to all ages, all sexes, and all Cal-breds regardless of earnings and number of career victories couldn't draw the requisite 5 horses at Santa Anita.

Maybe he would have stayed home if they allowed dirt maiden winners to remain eligible for a maiden special weight on the turf.

blackthroatedwind 05-11-2022 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 1164631)
Set Sail had to literally "set sail" to find a race against winners.

I guess a first condition allowance open to all ages, all sexes, and all Cal-breds regardless of earnings and number of career victories couldn't draw the requisite 5 horses at Santa Anita.

Maybe he would have stayed home if they allowed dirt maiden winners to remain eligible for a maiden special weight on the turf.

I can't get a handle on how good he is. Some horses from that race flatter him and some don't.

I feel like every possible contender in this race might be good and also might be a phony. Funny race.

cakes44 05-11-2022 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 1164631)
Set Sail had to literally "set sail" to find a race against winners.

I guess a first condition allowance open to all ages, all sexes, and all Cal-breds regardless of earnings and number of career victories couldn't draw the requisite 5 horses at Santa Anita.

Maybe he would have stayed home if they allowed dirt maiden winners to remain eligible for a maiden special weight on the turf.

It’s an absolutely horrendous race. Why wouldn’t a trainer bring one in and take a shot?

RolloTomasi 05-11-2022 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 1164633)
It’s an absolutely horrendous race. Why wouldn’t a trainer bring one in and take a shot?

I'm not arguing that. I'm commenting on the lack of a suitable race for a simple maiden winner at his home base.

He had to show up for this race whether his connections wanted to or not. And since Richard Mandella is not really known for taking shots or shipping, I'm guessing he would have stayed home if it was at all possible.

Or maybe the owner's plan is to leave the horse with Bill Mott or something since there isn't a whole lot of anything in CA for dirt 3yos within their own age group the rest of the year.

They have the Affirmed, a Grade 3 that usually draws 4 or 5 horses; the Los Alamitos Derby, a Grade 3 (I think) that draws 4 or 5 horses; and the Shared Belief, a Grade 3 at a mile that draws 4 or 5 horses. Set Sail probably could have jump started his career in the first 2 with an eye towards the Travers or Penn Derby, but he likely needed a race before the Affirmed in June which apparently isn't materializing at Santa Anita.


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