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SCUDSBROTHER 05-06-2019 01:27 PM

Retire Maximum Security, please
 
None of these dogooders deserve to see him run again. Period. There is only 1 Kentucky Derby. They are so willing to destroy you for fouling horses that couldn't get 10f to save their lives. Just retire him. You know he should be the Kentucky Derby Winner. Don't give them the pleasure of ever seeing him run again. They truly to not deserve that pleasure. Deny these sadistic player haters. Save disqualifications for horses who foul horses that were best.


Period.

If they want safety, don't run 19 on jello, and expect perfection.

Dahoss 05-06-2019 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 1126032)
None of these dogooders deserve to see him run again. Period. There is only 1 Kentucky Derby. They are so willing to destroy you for fouling horses that couldn't get 10f to save their lives. Just retire him. You know he should be the Kentucky Derby Winner. Don't give them the pleasure of ever seeing him run again. They truly to not deserve that pleasure. Deny these sadistic player haters. Save disqualifications for horses who foul horses that were best.


Period.

If they want safety, don't run 19 on jello, and expect perfection.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=umDr0mPuyQc

SCUDSBROTHER 05-06-2019 01:34 PM

You will never feel better by winning some other race.

Retire him.

This is the only way to hurt them (like they so pleasured from hurting you.)

You don't have to run him ever again. Don't run him until you are given what you deserve back to you. Don't let them win. If you run him, they win. Don't ever act like this is just. Go to your grave denying them ever seeing this horse ever run again.

SCUDSBROTHER 05-06-2019 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1126035)

I'm not communicating with you anymore, sadist.

I'm not reading your pc crap, again. ..ever.

Dahoss 05-06-2019 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 1126037)
I'm not communicating with you anymore, sadist.

I'm not reading your pc crap, again. ..ever.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ee925OTFBCA

Dahoss 05-06-2019 01:53 PM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub3XYDcMdhY

SCUDSBROTHER 05-06-2019 01:54 PM

I'm not reading anything you write, Hoss. You won, Sadist. They destroyed a legit derby winner for you and your pc buddies.

Be happy. You'll never get everyone to accept your pc crap. No matter all your socialist style efforts.

SCUDSBROTHER 05-06-2019 01:57 PM

I know the only thing this owner can do is deny you sadists a chance to ever see him run again. That is the only thing he's got now. I will pray to God that he never lets you see him run again. Not 1 of you sadistic haters deserve to see him ever run again.

SCUDSBROTHER 05-06-2019 02:00 PM

You can't force him to run the horse again.

Let him go out a winner in the minds of the real fans of the game. The rest of you can enjoy your memories of getting country Lice put up.

cakes44 05-06-2019 02:09 PM

Obama is from Kenya!

QAnon for life!

Dahoss 05-06-2019 02:10 PM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ9MUycYD6Y

SCUDSBROTHER 05-06-2019 02:13 PM

This is the press release he should put out.

My horse was the best horse, and a deserving winner of the May 4th, 2019 Kentucky Derby. The contact he made with any other horse did not keep them from winning the Kentucky Derby. They were not the best horse that day. Maximum Security was, and always will be the best horse that day. Disqualifications should be saved for when a horse would of won if not for being fouled. That is what is best. Not this pathetic p.c. pity fest that has taken over our sport. This is especially true when there are 19 horses running on a slip n' slide. I digress. I don't care about winning some secondary jewel or consolation race. So, I am retiring my horse. Enjoy your memories of seeing me, my wife, and my trainer in utter agony. You will not get a chance to see that again. He will never race again.

:$::tro:

philcski 05-07-2019 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 1126049)
This is the press release he should put out.

My horse was the best horse, and a deserving winner of the May 4th, 2019 Kentucky Derby. The contact he made with any other horse did not keep them from winning the Kentucky Derby. They were not the best horse that day. Maximum Security was, and always will be the best horse that day. Disqualifications should be saved for when a horse would of won if not for being fouled. That is what is best. Not this pathetic p.c. pity fest that has taken over our sport. This is especially true when there are 19 horses running on a slip n' slide. I digress. I don't care about winning some secondary jewel or consolation race. So, I am retiring my horse. Enjoy your memories of seeing me, my wife, and my trainer in utter agony. You will not get a chance to see that again. He will never race again.

:$::tro:

I would not cry if this horse never ran again.

I would not cry if Mr. 45% Jason Servis never enters a horse again.

SCUDSBROTHER 05-07-2019 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski (Post 1126099)
I would not cry if this horse never ran again.

I would not cry if Mr. 45% Jason Servis never enters a horse again.

Did I say cry?

You sadists even cry?

Dahoss 05-07-2019 07:29 AM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g1cPGsEJyqU

Rudeboyelvis 05-07-2019 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 1126032)
None of these dogooders deserve to see him run again. Period. There is only 1 Kentucky Derby. They are so willing to destroy you for fouling horses that couldn't get 10f to save their lives. Just retire him. You know he should be the Kentucky Derby Winner. Don't give them the pleasure of ever seeing him run again. They truly to not deserve that pleasure. Deny these sadistic player haters. Save disqualifications for horses who foul horses that were best.


Period.

If they want safety, don't run 19 on jello, and expect perfection.

Seconded

philcski 05-07-2019 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 1126101)
Did I say cry?

You sadists even cry?

You're crying pretty hard over this, buddy.

Konk 05-08-2019 10:44 AM

This thread belongs in some hall of fame somewhere. :zz:

SCUDSBROTHER 05-09-2019 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski (Post 1126161)
You're crying pretty hard over this, buddy.

Now, I am just shocked :eek: to see one of you bitter bitches in this forum mischaracterize the actions of someone that dares to disagree with some popular take that you have.

SCUDSBROTHER 05-09-2019 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 1126147)
Seconded

The horse has nothing to prove. 3 horses took major shots at going by him. He simply repelled them all. Johnny tried to sneak by him (much like some little rat that you barely see out of the corner of your eye,) and he responded beautifully. Prat got in front of him for a moment, and Max denied that opportunist, as well. He should deny everyone of these sadists any entertainment from seeing this horse run again. Really, this comes down to whether you think War of Will was gunna get 10f if he wasn't bothered. Myself, Beyer, and many others think he wasn't gunna get the distance. That looked like so many horses that just can't get that last 1/8th to 1/16th of a mile in the derby. Casse is making excuses for his horse not getting 10f in that derby. That is what almost every trainer does. It is almost always hopeful hogwash.

Konk 05-09-2019 09:22 AM

So the whole purpose of racing is to prove yourself in one race?
Have you ever owned a horse?
One that is not on a stick?

SCUDSBROTHER 05-09-2019 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Konk (Post 1126248)
So the whole purpose of racing is to prove yourself in one race?
Have you ever owned a horse?
One that is not on a stick?


You sound like the a-holes that teach organic chemistry.

SCUDSBROTHER 05-09-2019 10:28 AM

There are 10-12 (at least) trainers that are having the same type of discussion with their owners. It's just that Casse has an even better excuse than the other 10-11 guys.


Which would you want to tell War of Will's owner, Gary Barber?



"We are gunna have to cut back to a sloppy 8 or 9 furlongs, Gear, Buddy. We are a little short of air going 10f."





or





"We were gunna be right there, if we didn't get brutally fouled. Oh, boy. He would of been right there. I just know it, Gear. Thank God he got taken down. He cost us 2nd or 3rd minimum, minimum. Trust me , pal. He was rolling. "

SCUDSBROTHER 05-09-2019 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konk (Post 1126248)
So the whole purpose of racing is to prove yourself in one race?
Have you ever owned a horse?
One that is not on a stick?


He's 72 or 73 years old, and could pass for 78. This was his best chance to win a Derby. He repulsed three huge bids in this race. He has nothing to prove to anyone. I wouldn't race him. The point needs to be made that dq's should be reserved for elevating horses that were clearly kept from what otherwise would of been a top placing in the race. That is more important than winning any other race.

The way this was done is making it totally a matter of luck. If he'd of fouled horses than were good, he could of still gotten 3rd money. Because he fouled horses that couldn't get 10f, he got put all the way down to 17th. How is that ( in any way) a standard of punishment?

Dahoss 05-09-2019 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 1126257)
He's 72 or 73 years old, and could pass for 78. This was his best chance to win a Derby. He repulsed three huge bids in this race. He has nothing to prove to anyone. I wouldn't race him. The point needs to be made that dq's should be reserved for elevating horses that were clearly kept from what otherwise would of been a top placing in the race.

The way this was done is making it totally a matter of luck. If he'd of fouled horses than were good, he could of still gotten 3rd money. Because he fouled horses that couldn't get 10f, he got put all the way down to 17th. How is that ( in any way) a standard of punishment?

Are you just trying to post the dumbest stuff you can at this point?

blackthroatedwind 05-09-2019 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1126258)
Are you just trying to post the dumbest stuff you can at this point?

You need to move on from the Pick-3 skunking in 2005. It's clear that SCUDS has...now it's time for you, like him, to be the better man.

If not, we may have to sentence you to a lifetime of posting on youtube.

SCUDSBROTHER 05-09-2019 12:16 PM

:rolleyes:

SCUDSBROTHER 05-09-2019 12:24 PM

The loaded question forum.

Dahoss 05-09-2019 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 1126265)
The loaded question forum.

So yes?

Dahoss 05-18-2019 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 1126247)
The horse has nothing to prove. 3 horses took major shots at going by him. He simply repelled them all. Johnny tried to sneak by him (much like some little rat that you barely see out of the corner of your eye,) and he responded beautifully. Prat got in front of him for a moment, and Max denied that opportunist, as well. He should deny everyone of these sadists any entertainment from seeing this horse run again. Really, this comes down to whether you think War of Will was gunna get 10f if he wasn't bothered. Myself, Beyer, and many others think he wasn't gunna get the distance. That looked like so many horses that just can't get that last 1/8th to 1/16th of a mile in the derby. Casse is making excuses for his horse not getting 10f in that derby. That is what almost every trainer does. It is almost always hopeful hogwash.

Good call on War of Will not getting the distance.

Too bad Maximum Security fouled him so bad in the Derby. We might have had a chance at a Triple Crown in 3 weeks

knickslions2 05-18-2019 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1126732)
Good call on War of Will not getting the distance.

Too bad Maximum Security fouled him so bad in the Derby. We might have had a chance at a Triple Crown in 3 weeks

Lol I doubt that. That was not a good field and he got perfect trip.

Dahoss 05-18-2019 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 1126734)
Lol I doubt that. That was not a good field and he got perfect trip.

The point is it was ridiculous to conclude he “couldn’t get the distance” based on being severely fouled at a key point in the race.

Based on today, who knows what would’ve happened in the Derby.

Funny how it didn’t take long to criticize a horse who showed up 2 weeks after the Derby, while MS is taking his “rest.”

Vindication big time and I couldn’t be happier for the connections.

shanej974 05-18-2019 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 1126734)
Lol I doubt that. That was not a good field and he got perfect trip.

Disagree. In retrospect War of Will might have been making the winning move in the Derby when he was fouled. Came from the one post in both races. Made is own trip both times.

knickslions2 05-18-2019 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1126735)
The point is it was ridiculous to conclude he “couldn’t get the distance” based on being severely fouled at a key point in the race.

Based on today, who knows what would’ve happened in the Derby.

Funny how it didn’t take long to criticize a horse who showed up 2 weeks after the Derby, while MS is taking his “rest.”

Vindication big time and I couldn’t be happier for the connections.

Hey horse won good for him and connections. This had nothing to do with derby. This Preakness field was maybe worst we have seen in long time. Proven by Everlast finishing second.

Dahoss 05-18-2019 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 1126737)
Hey horse won good for him and connections. This had nothing to do with derby. This Preakness field was maybe worst we have seen in long time. Proven by Everlast finishing second.

Like I said, it’s funny how it took like 5 minutes to downplay his performance. Today proved the horse can stay a distance of ground. Who knows what happens if he isn’t fouled.

Hopefully we get to see them meet again when MS cycles back.

knickslions2 05-18-2019 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1126738)
Like I said, it’s funny how it took like 5 minutes to downplay his performance. Today proved the horse can stay a distance of ground. Who knows what happens if he isn’t fouled.

Hopefully we get to see them meet again when MS cycles back.

I hope they run against each other again cause tv will eat it up. His performance today was okay but like I said that was a bad bunch of coconuts. I don’t think has any relevance to derby.

Dahoss 05-18-2019 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 1126739)
I hope they run against each other again cause tv will eat it up. His performance today was okay but like I said that was a bad bunch of coconuts. I don’t think has any relevance to derby.

Not sure how you don’t see the relevance.

Has War of Will not proved how good he is before today? Those Fair Grounds races has shown to be super live.

knickslions2 05-18-2019 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1126741)
Not sure how you don’t see the relevance.

Has War of Will not proved how good he is before today? Those Fair Grounds races has shown to be super live.

I think today’s win was average and still think MS is best three year old and I bet neither in either race. Hopefully we see them compete this summer instead of on derby trail message board:)

Dahoss 05-18-2019 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 1126742)
I think today’s win was average and still think MS is best three year old and I bet neither in either race. Hopefully we see them compete this summer instead of on derby trail message board:)

You keep kind of avoiding admitting War of Will is a pretty good horse. Not sure why but the West’s would be very proud of you. ;)

knickslions2 05-18-2019 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1126746)
You keep kind of avoiding admitting War of Will is a pretty good horse. Not sure why but the West’s would be very proud of you. ;)

Can’t me too say it my friend. Let’s see how summer plays out


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