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Kasept 09-27-2017 05:17 PM

9/30-10/1 (SA): Super Sat. (5 G1's), Unzip Me; John Henry (G2)
 



Kasept 09-27-2017 05:23 PM

SATURDAY OVERNIGHT

Indian Charlie 09-27-2017 06:58 PM

I was looking forward to Dia De Pago stretching out here. Any word?

10 pnt move up 09-27-2017 07:15 PM

In general these are ok fields and races, but man that zenyatta stakes is bad, grade 3 at best

RHT2004 09-27-2017 07:23 PM

Other then the Juvenile races i dont see any real BC contenders.

Kasept 09-27-2017 07:34 PM

Sunday, 10/1
 
SUNDAY OVERNIGHT


10 pnt move up 09-27-2017 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1100179)
Other then the Juvenile races i dont see any real BC contenders.

most of the BC contenders are on the sidelines not running. Its great aint it

cakes44 09-27-2017 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1100179)
Other then the Juvenile races i dont see any real BC contenders.

Not Dortmund?

Indian Charlie 09-27-2017 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 1100183)
Not Dortmund?

Wrong trainer.

10 pnt move up 09-27-2017 11:16 PM

No offense to the trainers that trained Mubtaahij but they are not baffert, have to take a shot he runs his best race in this spot. Its not much a field beyond Cupid who was only ok. Against Breakin Lucky in this spot, there is no gun runner but this is a better group then he has faced and will be overbet off that last.

Dortmund may get a great setup on the lead, I could bet him at the right price (6/1 or so seems fair).

RHT2004 09-28-2017 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 1100191)
No offense to the trainers that trained Mubtaahij but they are not baffert, have to take a shot he runs his best race in this spot. Its not much a field beyond Cupid who was only ok. Against Breakin Lucky in this spot, there is no gun runner but this is a better group then he has faced and will be overbet off that last.

Dortmund may get a great setup on the lead, I could bet him at the right price (6/1 or so seems fair).

6-1. He is going to be like 3-1.

10 pnt move up 09-28-2017 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1100195)
6-1. He is going to be like 3-1.

oh that would be good cause I would rather bet the first time baffert horse

RHT2004 09-28-2017 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 1100196)
oh that would be good cause I would rather bet the first time baffert horse

He feels like the most likely winner to me. His Saratoga race from last summer certainly wins this.

10 pnt move up 09-28-2017 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1100197)
He feels like the most likely winner to me. His Saratoga race from last summer certainly wins this.

meh, dortmund scratched so likely no value in race. god its hard to bet this game

Seattleallstar 09-28-2017 04:46 PM

all those races on opening weekend and Gary Stevens is not riding in one of them

Kasept 09-28-2017 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar (Post 1100202)
all those races on opening weekend and Gary Stevens is not riding in one of them

He has a mount in the Chandelier, would have ridden Dortmund had he not come out and is on the first AE into the Unzip Me. And has 5 other non-stake calls Fri-Sun.

Kasept 09-28-2017 05:21 PM


10 pnt move up 09-28-2017 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar (Post 1100202)
all those races on opening weekend and Gary Stevens is not riding in one of them

He has not ridden that much in general this year. I think part of that has been Prat's emergence with some of the barns that used Stevens and also Kent's strong season.

Really as hired guns go, which is what he is, there just isnt that much stock to go around.

Seattleallstar 09-29-2017 11:19 AM

thanks guys Im a diehard fan and realize this is probably the last few months of him riding.

I even noticed that Thomas Proctor is not using him, along with Mandella

10 pnt move up 09-29-2017 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar (Post 1100217)
thanks guys Im a diehard fan and realize this is probably the last few months of him riding.

I even noticed that Thomas Proctor is not using him, along with Mandella

Proctor has been using Van Dyke who also has really become a favorite of Glen Hill Farm, basically giving them first call and traveling to ride their horses.

I dont think Stevens is doing anything differenct. I dont think he works horses so that has to hurt as well, very few guys can not work horses and still get premium mounts.


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