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Kasept 04-09-2018 11:24 AM

5/5 (CD): 144th Kentucky Derby Day
 




5/5/18 ~ Kentucky Derby (1 1/4M) Churchill Downs

1. Firenze Fire 39 (Mr. Amore Stable) Jason Servis/Paco Lopez (50-1)
2. Free Drop Billy 44 (Albaugh Family) Dale Romans/Robby Albarado (30-1)
3. Promises Fulfilled 52 (Robert Baron) Dale Romans/Corey Lanarie (30-1)
4. Flameaway-$ 70 (John Oxley) Mark Casse/Jose Lezcano (30-1)
5. Audible 110 (China Horse, Head/Plains, Starlight, WinStar) Todd Pletcher/Javier Castellano (8-1)
6. Good Magic 134 (e Five, Stonestreet) Chad Brown/Jose Ortiz (12-1)
7. Justify 100 (China Horse, Head/Plains, Starlight, WinStar) Bob Baffert/Mike Smith (3-1)
8. Lone Sailor 42 (G M B Racing) Tom Amoss/James Graham (50-1)
9. Hofburg 40 (Juddmonte) Bill Mott/Irad Ortiz Jr. (20-1)
10. My Boy Jack 52 (Don’t Tell My Wife, Monomoy) Keith Desormeaux/Kent Desormeaux (30-1)
11. Bolt d’Oro 104 (Ruis Racing) Mick Ruis/Victor Espinoza (8-1)
12. Enticed 103 (Godolphin) Kiaran McLaughlin/Junior Alvarado (30-1)
13. Bravazo 54 (Calumet Farm) D. Wayne Lukas/Luis Contreras (50-1)
14. Mendelssohn 100 (Coolmore) Aidan O’Brien/Ryan Moore (5-1)
15. Instilled Regard 29 (Oxo Equine/Larry Best) Jerry Hollendorfer/Drayden Van Dyke (50-1)
16. Magnum Moon 150 (Lawana & Robert Low) Todd Pletcher/Luis Saez (6-1)
17. Solomini 54 (Zayat Stables, Coolmore) Bob Baffert/Flavien Prat (30-1)
18. Vino Rosso 107 (Repole, St. Elias) Todd Pletcher/John Velazquez (12-1)
19. Noble Indy 110 (WinStar, Repole) Todd Pletcher/Florent Geroux (12-1)
20. Combatant 32 (Winchell, Willis Horton) Steve Asmussen/Ricardo Santana (30-1)
AE-21. Blended Citizen-$ 22 (Greg Hall, SAYJAY Racing/Steve Young) Doug O’Neill/Kyle Frey (50-1)

cakes44 04-09-2018 11:55 AM

Gotta think JJC had first choice there.

Who jumps on BDO?

tector 04-09-2018 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 1107870)
Gotta think JJC had first choice there.

Who jumps on BDO?

Not so sure of that.

cal828 04-09-2018 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 1107870)
Gotta think JJC had first choice there.

Who jumps on BDO?

Espinoza, Van Dyke, Bejarano? Do any of these already have a KD mount? Thought about Gary Stevens too, but he have may have already committed to Lukas?

blackthroatedwind 04-09-2018 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 1107870)
Gotta think JJC had first choice there.

Who jumps on BDO?

Javier almost surely stuck with the trainer he needs to ride for over the long haul. It is highly unlikely he believes Audible is more likely to win the Derby than Bolt D'Oro.

Dunbar 04-09-2018 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1107878)
Javier almost surely stuck with the trainer he needs to ride for over the long haul. It is highly unlikely he believes Audible is more likely to win the Derby than Bolt D'Oro.

I agree. I was surprised that the bettors in Pool 4 considered Audible a more likely winner than Bolt D'Oro.

taxicab 04-09-2018 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 1107870)

Who jumps on BDO?

Thinking perhaps Victor.......

Holybull1 04-09-2018 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1107878)
Javier almost surely stuck with the trainer he needs to ride for over the long haul. It is highly unlikely he believes Audible is more likely to win the Derby than Bolt D'Oro.


Then why take the Bolt mount in the first place? It seems unlikely Ruis would have given the mount to JJC without an understanding that the Derby was a part of the deal.

blackthroatedwind 04-09-2018 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Holybull1 (Post 1107881)
Then why take the Bolt mount in the first place? It seems unlikely Ruis would have given the mount to JJC without an understanding that the Derby was a part of the deal.

Well, apparently he didn't.

It's a reasonable question but it's also not unreasonable to suggest that two months ago that Todd wouldn't have needed Javier.

RHT2004 04-10-2018 08:41 AM

If i had to choose, it would be Vino of the Pletcher horses. Seems to be putting it together, and an argument can be made he just disliked Tampa. Seemed to be spinning his wheels late in races after being perfectly placed.

knickslions2 04-10-2018 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1107902)
If i had to choose, it would be Vino of the Pletcher horses. Seems to be putting it together, and an argument can be made he just disliked Tampa. Seemed to be spinning his wheels late in races after being perfectly placed.

I'm interested to see Magnum Moon run this weekend again. Ran big in the rebel and if he improves will be very dangerous in the derby. In my opinion Todd's best horse.

blackthroatedwind 04-10-2018 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1107902)
If i had to choose, it would be Vino of the Pletcher horses. Seems to be putting it together, and an argument can be made he just disliked Tampa. Seemed to be spinning his wheels late in races after being perfectly placed.

The problem with that argument is his race in the Sam Davis. He can't like it one day and then not on another.

Alabama Stakes 04-10-2018 10:04 AM

Javier realizes that Bolt Was no match for Justify and as least has a chance with Audible who has been brilliant so far. As cool as some of the contenders are, they are all running for second money as it is clear that Justify is the goods.

Benny 04-10-2018 10:42 AM

what are the chances that TP's horses don't hit the board, ala Zito's fivesome years ago ? Just sayin' --

freddymo 04-10-2018 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1107909)
Javier realizes that Bolt Was no match for Justify and as least has a chance with Audible who has been brilliant so far. As cool as some of the contenders are, they are all running for second money as it is clear that Justify is the goods.

I have Justify at 30/1 I just vomited in my mouth and ripped my ticket up. Come on Kryptonite...DOOMED

Alabama Stakes 04-10-2018 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 1107919)
I have Justify at 30/1 I just vomited in my mouth and ripped my ticket up. Come on Kryptonite...DOOMED

If you're saying that to make me feel good, it worked.

Kasept 04-17-2018 10:52 AM

Jon White's Early Kentucky Derby Odds

3-1 Justify
6-1 Magnum Moon
6-1 Mendelssohn
8-1 Audible
8-1 Bolt d'Oro
8-1 Good Magic
15-1 Vino Rosso
20-1 Enticed
20-1 Flameaway
20-1 Noble Indy
20-1 My Boy Jack
20-1 Quip
30-1 Free Drop Billy
30-1 Gronkowski
30-1 Hofburg
30-1 Solomini
50-1 Bravazo
50-1 Firenze Fire
50-1 Lone Sailor
50-1 Promises Fulfilled

Kasept 04-23-2018 06:56 AM


Kasept 04-23-2018 11:04 AM

Quip will bypass Derby, try Preakness.. Combatant moves into field.. Instilled Regard now on deck..

-BT- 04-23-2018 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1108548)
Quip will bypass Derby

Madonamia, it's almost like these horses know i have a futures wager on them.


-bt-


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