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fpsoxfan 05-04-2019 06:29 PM
Done till Spa. F horse racing
 
Yup. I did have Maximum Security. Let’s get that straight.
With that said folks, that DQ was horrible. These fick$ing assholes wonder why
People are going to casinos. A complete disgrace to the sport of horse racing.
I’m done. This decision is a complete reflection of America today.
Complete pussification. And fuc$ bill Mott. I can’t wait to see that puke at Saratoga. I’ll get bounced but it will be worth it. **** this ****!

opusone 05-04-2019 06:39 PM
He knows in heart he did not win the Derby. Muddy track and the horse slides a bit. 20 would not have won.

Alabama Stakes 05-04-2019 06:41 PM
Terrible DQ . 1 Hoss had no opening and forced his way up in there. Bullshrt call

tanner12oz 05-04-2019 06:43 PM
Best horse didn't win...call I'm actually about with. I'm blown away that they flipped it though. Congrats to horse racing to taking 2 mins and turning it into 30

Rudeboyelvis 05-04-2019 06:45 PM
I don't post here very often at all, but I've literally seen it all today.

Full Disclosure: while I respected Country House, I did not use the horse in my trifecta. So I personally don't really have a b*tch coming to me - from a bettor standpoint - anyway.

I've seen bad takedowns, some of which I've benefitted from, some of which were ignored and also benefitted from. And vise versa.

Today marks a brand new chapter in abject absurdity. A chapter where brain-dead, know-nothing-about-the-sport *Chief Stewards* are Charged with making decisions that affect literally ten's of millions of dollars of hard-earned wagering dollars.

This CANNOT go unchallenged. The integrity of the sport (or what's left of it) is at stake.

knickslions2 05-04-2019 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 1125712)
I don't post here very often at all, but I've literally seen it all today.

Full Disclosure: while I respected Country House, I did not use the horse in my trifecta. So I personally don't really have a b*tch coming to me - from a bettor standpoint - anyway.

I've seen bad takedowns, some of which I've benefitted from, some of which I've were ignored and also benefitted from. And vise versa.

Today marks a brand new chapter in abject absurdity. A chapter where brain-dead, know-nothing-about-the-sport *Chief Stewards* are Charged with making decisions that affect literally ten's of millions of dollars of hard-earned wagering dollars.

This CANNOT go unchallenged. The integrity of the sport (or what's left of it) is at stake.
Dan this was worst travesty I ever saw and I have no betting interest in this. I will watch tomorrow when I’m sober but I’m not drunk enough to think this was fair.

Kitan 05-04-2019 06:50 PM
There was no stewards inquiry. Objection was 20 vs 7. The interference from 7 onto 20 did not affect the result.

Was there an objection from other riders? No. Was there an official inquiry looking at other events? No.

Given that, anything other than the 7 staying up is farcical.

Dahoss 05-04-2019 06:52 PM
I thought it was the right call. The winner absolutely fouled War of Will. I’m not sure how that is even debatable.

I feel for anyone that bet Maximum Security but a foul is a foul. I’d expect the same result on a Monday at Parx as I do in the Derby.

Integrity is taking the horse down that fouled a horse and cost him a placing. Not taking him down because it’s the Derby would be the opposite of that.

Rudeboyelvis 05-04-2019 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 1125714)
Dan this was worst travesty I ever saw and I have no betting interest in this. I will watch tomorrow when I’m sober but I’m not drunk enough to think this was fair.
Tom, This is the first time in a while that I was sober :eek: for it.. I need to get back to drinking if this is how it works ;):)

opusone 05-04-2019 06:53 PM
To me it feels like the Derby did not happen.

Rudeboyelvis 05-04-2019 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1125719)
I thought it was the right call. The winner absolutely fouled War of Will. I’m not sure how that is even debatable.

I feel for anyone that bet Maximum Security but a foul is a foul. I’d expect the same result on a Monday at Parx as I do in the Derby.

Integrity is taking the horse down that fouled a horse and cost him a placing. Not taking him down because it’s the Derby would be the opposite of that.
War of Will absolutely was fouled. Hossy you are correct - no debate.
Gafflione was interviewed and said he had no horse, regardless of MS coming out. The fact remains - Country House was never touched, never vied for the lead but was put up based on nonsense.

knickslions2 05-04-2019 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 1125720)
Tom, This is the first time in a while that I was sober :eek: for it.. I need to get back to drinking if this is how it works ;):)
This is all because it was Servis. Even Mott agrees they weren’t right. This was a joke.

Heels1989 05-04-2019 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 1125723)
War of Will absolutely was fouled. Hossy you are correct - no debate.
Gafflione was interviewed and said he had no horse, regardless of MS coming out. The fact remains - Country House was never touched, never vied for the lead but was put up based on nonsense.
^^^this!!!

Rudeboyelvis 05-04-2019 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by opusone (Post 1125721)
To me it feels like the Derby did not happen.
Whoa, a Leo sighting!!! How you been Bro???!!!

fpsoxfan 05-04-2019 07:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1125719)
I thought it was the right call. The winner absolutely fouled War of Will. I’m not sure how that is even debatable.

I feel for anyone that bet Maximum Security but a foul is a foul. I’d expect the same result on a Monday at Parx as I do in the Derby.

Integrity is taking the horse down that fouled a horse and cost him a placing. Not taking him down because it’s the Derby would be the opposite of that.
Ok. Tell that to the crowd that was booing. You’ve seen worse Hoss and you know it.

Dahoss 05-04-2019 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 1125723)
War of Will absolutely was fouled. Hossy you are correct - no debate.
Gafflione was interviewed and said he had no horse, regardless of MS coming out. The fact remains - Country House was never touched, never vied for the lead but was put up based on nonsense.
I think MS was DQ’d for fouling War of Will though. That’s why he was placed behind him.

Total agreement Country House wasn’t fouled.

Dahoss 05-04-2019 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by fpsoxfan (Post 1125727)
Ok. Tell that to the crowd that was booing. You’ve seen worse Hoss and you know it.
I’m sorry you lost but the crowd booing doesn’t matter.

I’ve seen worse stay up and I’ve seen less come down. It has no bearing on what happened today.

fpsoxfan 05-04-2019 07:04 PM
If the 1 got second I’d be more convinced. Bad call. I saw mike smith do worse multiple timee including travers day

Rudeboyelvis 05-04-2019 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1125728)
I think MS was DQ’d for fouling War of Will though. That’s why he was placed behind him.

Total agreement Country House wasn’t fouled.
This was literally coming through the last turn, not in the stretch, and not affecting the outcome of the race....would you feel the same if they bumped out of the gate?

tanner12oz 05-04-2019 07:08 PM
Bayern stays up and ms doesn't..


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